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Discussion Finn, a Descendant of Mace Windu

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by DeanoMeisteR, Dec 25, 2015.

  1. DeanoMeisteR

    DeanoMeisteR Jedi Master star 1

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    My theory of Finn backstory and why:

    Enter one of the hundreds of battles being waged at the climax of the Clone Wars. Mace Windu in full realization that there is a storm ahead, but doesn't know what when or how. Finds a one time lover on a distant planet. On this day, an extra dimension of meaning was added to his life for it would never be the same. A child is conceived. Understandings are exchanged, and Windu takes his place again at the center of galactic conflict.

    Referring back to Qui-Gon's words in TPM, "if Anakin had been born in the Republic we would have identified him early". Windu intended to go back when the time was right to oversee the future of his offspring. It was definitely in the cards for the Jedi master who by all accounts has been demonstrated time and again letting go of attachment and act in the benefit of the Jedi order and the republic.

    The timeline now is about half of the way through RoTS. Windu's romantic encounter comes to Courascant to find the Jedi master. But she does not go right away, she explores the vastness of a city of the likes she has never seen. [the rest of this paragraph isn't even necessary lol just for crowd effect]. She bumps baby bellies with Padme as they are both on their way to an impromptu pregnancy counseling session. Each says their parts. While they are each saying their piece, they leave out the force-sensitive complexity of their experiences. They part ways remembering one another but never seeing each other again.

    Reality sets in for the mystery lover after the order 66 events transpire. Knowing full well the probability of Mace Windu's survival she quietly leaves the planet. She further realizes that her son [ultrasound also done on Courascant], may also be in grave danger. She goes into a more discreet life.

    Fast-forward 28 years later and Windu's offspring is now fully grown at the conclusion of the battle of Endor. Has come to know he has special abilities as well. The force is very dormant however with this offspring of Mace Windu. Since an early age, abilities that his mother has discouraged him to ever use due to no reason in particular (however the mothers motivation of discouragement is due to the danger of the empire). The son of Windu never really uses the force or has visions. This son of Windu has a child as well, a little later in life at 35 years old

    This event places this new offspring, the grandson of Mace Windu, born 7 years after the battle of Endor. Deeply rooted in his genome now is a strong discouragement to really discover the powers of the force. This results in very dormant but not lost force ability, which would need some drastic rekindling. Although he may never use the force, the ability is present and actually does have the potential to be very strong indeed with the force.

    Finn is ultimately taken at an early age into the first order, but certain traits are not
    Lost and he finds his own way back to the light.

    Finn, grandson of Mace Windu, and a powerfully ally he is. Disconnected with abilities of the force, make him weak this does not.
     
  2. Merric

    Merric Jedi Master star 2

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    I could never, EVER see Windu, of all people going against the jedi code like that. It just doesn't fit with his overall character. No way Finn's going to be his grandson.
     
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  3. callmejoe

    callmejoe Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Please no, not every character has to have connections to as many other characters as possible.
     
  4. Redimet

    Redimet Jedi Master star 4

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    NO. It doesn't even make sense that Windu would break the code.
     
  5. DeanoMeisteR

    DeanoMeisteR Jedi Master star 1

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    I know that a lot of people are convinced he is force sensitive. I am with the opinion that his character is already one of great stature and potential without the force. If he is however, then this is the lineage that I propose. This idea is just an alternative to the threads I see suggesting he is the grandson of obi-wan in that regard.

    Just something to think about, especially if Luke dies in episode 8 then this would make a lot more sense to balance out the numbers of light and dark force users in the conflict.

    Windu said himself that the force works in mysterious ways.
     
  6. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    Because Lando Calrissian and Mace Windu are the only two black people in the entire Star Wars universe and every black human character *must* be related to either of them...

    The film was pretty clear in that it mentioned Finn being taken from his family at a young age and being trained to fight. He probably doesn't have the foggiest idea who they were and neither does the First Order. He is his own person and doesn't have to be related to any other character in order to be in any of the films.
     
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  7. LastJediKnight

    LastJediKnight Jedi Knight star 4

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    It'll be Lando. Having it be Mace would be a huge stretch.

    Finn has been portrayed to be more blaster-type-guy then being super adept with a lightsaber. He was pretty much beaten by a stormtrooper in his first try and got a lucky shot in before Ren took him apart. Having him in any way look to be a Jedi and run around with a saber would stomp all over Rey's story. That's her destiny, not his. They need to be complimentary and that means more Lando/Han dashing seat-of-the-pants traditional style than Mace-style.

    That's not to say they couldn't write it with Mace in his lineage, it just runs counter to his character. The Force is certainly with him since they couldn't program him, but that doesn't mean he's a Jedi any more than Leia is. They simply went different paths in life.
     
  8. LastJediKnight

    LastJediKnight Jedi Knight star 4

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    Oh, and while it is true that not every character need to be related to the other... they specifically namechecked that Finn was taken from a family he will never know. Which.. in writing terms means...

    WE WILL KNOW WHO THAT FAMILY IS BY THE END OF THIS TRILOGY. AND IT WILL BE SOMEONE WE'VE SEEN.

    Guar-an-teed.
     
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  9. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    Grandson, no. Nephew? Quite possibly.
     
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  10. YTMND

    YTMND Jedi Master star 5

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    I don't understand the constant need for fans to cook up theories about why this person must be related to that person. Guess what guys, there's more than one black guy in the galaxy.
     
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  11. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    WE DONT ALL LOOK ALIKE!
     
  12. propeller

    propeller Jedi Knight star 2

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    I do find the need to link characters based purely on race at best naive, if not a tad offensive.
     
  13. Fruit Pastilles

    Fruit Pastilles Jedi Knight star 3

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    Right! And let's make Hux a descendant of Tarkin, and maybe Snoke is Palpatine's son!? Oh, and what if Poe is the son of the only other Latino in the SW universe... uh, what's his name... Nien Nunb?
     
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  14. Darth Doop

    Darth Doop Jedi Master star 4

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    Please no
     
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  15. YTMND

    YTMND Jedi Master star 5

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    That's the point.
     
  16. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    I was joking. Haha have you seen the interview where SLJ gets mistaken for Laurence Fishburne?

    I want Finn to be a Windu not because of his race, but because of how much I like Mace.
     
  17. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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  18. PymParticles

    PymParticles Cruel but Fair Tyrant of New Films star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    No. The prominent black character does not need to be related to either of the two other prominent black characters. It makes the Galaxy feel small and would more than likely come across as socially tone deaf.
     
  19. Sable de luz

    Sable de luz Jedi Knight star 2

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    we are not even sure if he is force sensitive

    anyone can hold and even use a lightsaber. han did in ep 5
     
  20. Kualan

    Kualan Jedi Master star 4

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    Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Maul and Nute Gunray didn't have to be ancestors of characters from the OT. I don't see why every character needs to be a descendant in the ST.

    We have Kylo Ren and (most likely) Rey keeping the legacy bloodlines going. That's more than enough for the first film in the trilogy. Maybe one or two more scattered across Episodes 8 and 9, but the "major" slots seem comfortably taken.
     
  21. DeanoMeisteR

    DeanoMeisteR Jedi Master star 1

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    Nephew wouldn't fit the timeline. A great nephew would be an even better fit. The missing piece in my theory is there would be no reason for Windu to break the code. His ideals are pretty purely rooted into his character. Thanks for whoever mentioned that idea.
     
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  22. mercer590

    mercer590 Jedi Padawan

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    remember the force doesnt have to be cornered into bloodlines. Mace could be apart of a new family of strong force users
     
  23. Cabbage Knight

    Cabbage Knight Jedi Padawan star 1

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  24. Solosaber

    Solosaber Jedi Master star 2

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    Quit iiiiiiit
     
  25. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Destroy All Monsters! star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    [​IMG]

    "The code forbids it".
     
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