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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    [image=http://www.denimfilms.com/shared/Fleetjunkies.jpg]

    It appears that the old thread has been decommissioned. Good times.

    Unless there is a cloaked replacement, I suggest we continue. The last topic was the Adventure Journals.

    Was the file on the Kaloth from an Adventure Journal? I think it was one of the "Wanted by Cracken" sections, but I have no idea which AJ it was in.
     
  2. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Whoo, first post! YAY! :cool:

    As for the Kaloth, I have no access to the AJs so I have no idea. :(
     
  3. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    The [link=http://theforce.net/swenc/entrydesc.asp?search=13285]Unofficial Encyclopedia[/link] says Galaxy Guide 9: Fragments from the Rim for the Kaloth... with a surprisingly heavy armament of 44 turbolaser batteries...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  4. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I doubt its legitimacy. That's a whopping amount of guns for a mere 300m ship. Why, its entire hull would be covered in guns. And yet I, Jedi says it has enough teeth to brawl with an Escort Frigate, 70 does seem overgunned.

    Strange things happen in SW. Like COPL saying how powerful Battle Dragons are, from their rapid firing, then suddenly EGVV and then subsequently Jedi Eclipse saying their recharge rate is slow. A contradiction.
     
  5. Jaymach_RalTir

    Jaymach_RalTir Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What, you mean [link=http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6001/kaloth1xv.jpg]this old thing[/link]? Yeah it was in GG9. Feel free to ask for any more pics...I have all of the RPG books 'cept 4 AJ's...and I'm getting them soon too. :)

    EDIT: And in reply to Excellence...the rate or fire for each Turbolaser was slow (I think Cracken's Threat Dossier said it was only 1/3 the fire rate of regular Turbolasers), but seeing as they were mounted on a 'roatating ring' that spun them all round the ship, as soon as one fired, another would swing into its place and be able to fire again right away, hence it having a "fast fire rate".
     
  6. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    But only subsequent books like EGVV and Jedi Eclipse said that. They were fine in COPL.

    Hey, just realised the thread says Fleet Junkie-class. [face_dancing]
     
  7. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    Does it come with a cloaking shield?

    The Kaloth is a KDY make, right?
     
  8. Jaymach_RalTir

    Jaymach_RalTir Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No cloaking shield is mentioned in what little text there is about it...neither does it say who manufactured it...but I don't think it'd be KDY myself...just...doesn't have a KDY sorta feel to the design. Anyhow, [link=http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1131/kalothtext2sr.jpg]here[/link] is all the descriptive text avaliable in the entire book.
     
  9. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    For future reference, [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Literature/b10003/11918689/?10260]this[/link] is the link back to the old topic for review of it.
     
  10. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    According to that link's text, the Thalassians' Kaloth is modified. They up-gunned it. The standard Kaloth, as I, Jedi said, is most likely an Escort Frigate equivalent, as the book did indeed say.
     
  11. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The ship in I, Jedi and in that pice are the same one, Harmzuay.
     
  12. Jaymach_RalTir

    Jaymach_RalTir Jedi Youngling star 1

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    S'why it says "modified archaic battlecruiser" in the stats :p But yeah something that old would never have been that powerful originally. Nice to see how much you can upgrade an old thing like that though.
     
  13. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    So many Star Wars vessels say modified that I just look over it . . . :p
     
  14. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Modified Kaloths can, it seems, be pretty effective - the pirate command ship, making strafing runs with gunships in a tight shield-overlap formation, caused some irritation to Chimaera in SotP... and that was seen as a credible Corellian Defence Force formation... but she did lack proper particle shields, and was pasted in a moment when the right tactic was applied...

    I suspect that the Harmzuay was simply less well-modified...

    But the WEG illustration, by only showing the bows in plan, keeps alive my 'fix' that the Kaloth has a very, very broad hull, wider than she is long; I don't see any reason why her seemingly stupidly heavy and cramped TL armament shouldn't be original... ;)

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  15. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    No offense guys, but don't you think that we should create a thread with a similar name to the previous one? Not only that, but maybe have a little introduction that explains what we have been doing the last few years and have a link to the previous thread?

    I don't mean to sound rude to AdmiralWesJanson, but I just am just not crazy about the threads title and how it got started.

    Am I alone in this?

    --Adm. Nick
     
  16. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I have to agree with Nick, actually

    But was there an actual reason for the decomissioning of the last one?
     
  17. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    The boards get a bit wonky when you go over 10,000 posts, I think.
     
  18. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I like "Mark II" bit in the title (versus simply "2.0"), and it does go with AWJ's ship name theme.

    Still, if you guys want the title changed to something closer to the original thread, might I suggest removing the "New Republic" portion, since it's expanded obviously to include all capital ships?

    "Capital Ships Discussion- Mess of the Fleet Junkies, Mark II" or some such ;)
     
  19. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, I just think that we should use this thread to put together a good opening post for the eventual "official" new home for the Fleet Junkies. I commend AdmiralWesJanson for his quick action, but I feel that we all should have some input in the new threads name. Furthermore, it is imperative that the opening post have a nice little summary of what we have accomplished, our history, and stuff of that nature.

    I know that only a few of the original batch of Fleet Junkies like myself still post, but I would like to see the next version of this thread connected in a greater way with the original one.

    I agree with The2ndQuest that out title is a bit outdated. For example, I have noticed that many of the boards posters simply refer to us as "The Capital Ship Thread". I think that some variation of this should be used in our new title. The term "Fleet Junkie" should be in the new title as well.

    We need to work this stuff out before we start our official home. A thread that has risen to the level of our old home needs to have a better start then just a few sentence long opening.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  20. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    All right. Let me know how it turns out. Someone send me a PM or something once it is all decided.
     
  21. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    AdmiralWesJanson:

    No need to wait for a PM. Join in the discussion and conversation here. I think that if all of us who regularly posted in the old thread pooled our ideas that we could create a great name and opening post for the new thread. :)

    Heck, if anyone has any good ideas for an opening post, feel free to put the here. If we all stick out heads together we can come up with something that will be the perfect introduction to our new thread.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  22. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    "The Capital Ships Thread- If You Ask How Long a SSD Is, You Will Be Banned" ? :D
     
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  23. EagleEye

    EagleEye Jedi Youngling

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    Excellence, i think i can supply you with an answer to your Battle Dragons conundrum.

    The Hapan recharge rates were very very slow. their compensation for that involved putting their guns on rotating belts that would move after every shot to give the guns proper time to recharge.

    More on this in the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels( the original one not the new one).
     
  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    *chuckles*

    The GFFA Capital Ships Thread - Just Don't Bring up the Invisible Hand, the Executor, the Death Star or the Defender ships. Please!!
     
  25. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why not the Invisible Hand (yes, Grevious was half crazed when he lowered the reactor power and stuff)?