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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Dolby poster for ROS gives us a new detail of the ISD fleet...

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    Don't recall being able to make out the red markings in the trailers before.
     
  2. A8T

    A8T Jedi Knight star 2

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    Interesting, they seem to have ISD II communication towers, wonder if we will get both versions or just one
     
  3. Pons

    Pons Jedi Knight star 2

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    Closeup shot of the "new" B-wing. Analyze away...[​IMG]
     
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  4. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The B-Wing Mk III ;)
    This seems to be the same group from the D23 Trailer.
     
  5. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 5

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    A lot worse than the ROTJ B-wing. Those two tiny engines look pointless and the rear of the cockpit section has an ugly blocky look instead of the smooth cone of the original.
     
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  6. Snafu55

    Snafu55 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Wait...are seriously all the starfighters in this final battle......ROTJ advanced models????
     
  7. Pons

    Pons Jedi Knight star 2

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    New Starhawk art from Armada, including one of the Concord getting shredded by Ravager. Couldn't find any in better quality.

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  8. Pons

    Pons Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yep, straight out of the 80's. How refreshing. How imaginative.
     
  9. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If that poster didn't have Rise of Skywalker on it I'd easily mistake it as something from the OT-era. Well, I just hope their new Battle of Endor has nice special effects. I wonder how long an A-wing rams a Star Destroyer.
     
  10. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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    Eh, we already saw them rehash a ton of OT ships in the previous two films, so *shrug*. Besides, the trailer gave us that cool shot of the Y-wing doing a barrel roll and firing at the Star Destroyer...and we actually get to see some B-wings flying around. If nothing else, it looks like we'll get a better Battle of Endor.
     
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  11. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    How in the hell will

    Could a fleet of starfighters go up against all those Star Destroyers!!!!!!!!! Starfighters against a thousand Star Destroyers and without the New Republic Fleet courtesy of the First Order, this is hard to get my head around yet.
     
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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    While I agree that it would have been nice to get some new models, one could argue that the main reason we got so many new models between TPM & ROTJ was that the galaxy’s Shift towards warfare needed the development of new designs as they figured out what worked best. And what started in the OT was “peak” model design- they had their bomber model, their interceptor model, their cap killer model, their all-purpose fighter model, etc.

    After Endor/Jakku, they had their peak models and their manufacturers and just iterated on them- especially as the NR wasn’t going to throw a lot of money into military expansion/entirely new craft since they were disarming things.

    And, now, that’s what is left for the Resistance to use after all this time.
     
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  13. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'm going to be a bit pissed if those new B-Wings don't have MK II cockpits.
     
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  14. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    The Sith are gonna win this, aren’t they?
     
  15. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    This whole issue of just revamping old models (and often not that much) is really fascinating to me right now, because on the one hand it has been a major problem with ST designs from the start and I've never really been happy with that. But OTOH it's really hard to not get the feeling that the massive ISD push in relation to TRoS and its marketing is on some level an acknowledgment that the Resurgent is a kinda meh design that, even accounting for how iconic the ISD is, does not live up to its predecessor at all. It's like, from what I've seen everyone agrees they should have had more original designs but simultaneously everyone is also pretty much on board with a case of outright reversion to the past.
     
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  16. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's funny- I didn't care for the Resstar, either (outside of the one TFA shot that was awesome in 3D- but that might have had more to do with he 3D than the ship design itself). But as I've begun catching up to the TFA era materials, I'm finding I'm starting to like a lot og aspects of it and a few angles of it. Naturally, that's when they decide to revert to Impstars ;).
     
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  17. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Master star 3

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    Also Fallen Order uses some BF2 models. Though both games are punished by EA, so that’s technically in them family’

    They were there in the first trailer.
     
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  18. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 5

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    Autocorrect knows EA well [face_laugh]
     
  19. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Master star 3

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    Whoops.

    Though a certainly wouldn’t apply that term to BF2 and fallen order.
     
  20. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 5

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    Don't forget Bf2 would have been punished hard with microtransactions if Disney hadn't protected it. You would be paying real money for your X-Wing's virtual fuel otherwise.
     
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  21. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Master star 3

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    Eh, there’s no evidence that Disney was involved with that reversal.

    The Star Wars mobile games are still full of them. As is SWTOR

    Plus Battlefield V doesn’t have any loot boxes and Disney has nothing to do with that. I think this was fully an EA decision from the negative PR.
     
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  22. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    All this frowning over "too many OT ship designs!" and "the engines are too small!" and I'm just over here excited that we might finally get to see a B-wing in action :D
     
  23. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    Complaints about OT ship designs aside...that is a plus.
     
  24. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, the lack of huge advancements after 30 years is not that bad considering most of the new ships are from the last days of the Galactic Civil War and are already decades old by the time of the ST.

    MC85: 5 ABY
    Nebulon-C: pre-demilitarization, so probably 5 ABY
    Vakbeor: Imperial era (if we assume Gallofree folded around the same time in canon, this could’ve debuted as early as 3 BBY)
    Bunkerbuster: by 4 ABY
    Starfortress: 5 ABY
    T-70 X-Wing: 5 ABY
    RZ-2 A-Wing: by 7 ABY


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  25. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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    You guys don't like the Resurgent? I think it's the only ST ship design that I happen to like. If it were just stuck into Legends, everything would be all good.
     
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