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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Your squadmates? Nobody said to go in without starfighter protection... as was seen in TROS even with Finns stupid plan!

    Alterntively... get some cloaking device ;)

    Or even better: add a friendly transponder sign to your ship and have its look be modded to look like an enemy vessel to get close enough

    or you install said cutter tech on capital ships.. have two flank the enemy vessel on both sides and activate the cutter slicing it up... like old naval vessels did gunning enemies down in their midst.
     
  2. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Master star 2

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    I would argue that the cutters would be an easy target for the destroyers' defenses or the TIE daggers...but to be fair neither even attempted to take down the resistance dropships that landed troops and horses.
     
  3. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    That's because Finn, Rose and the others with them were equipped with level 8 plot armor. Mole miners or laser drill ships crewed by regular redshirts would be much more vulnerable to attack.
     
  4. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    More likely the Fortitude's shields and the fact that all twenty-odd starfighters of the Resistance surrounded it easily enough to get it to the hull of the Steadfast.
     
  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Sixteen fighters I thought.

    Four of each A, B, X and Y.
     
  6. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    Eh well...even if you've got Rogue Squadron or Anakin Skywalker flying cover for you, there's only so much they can do. It just takes a single enemy fighter to get through and drop a proton torpedo on you and it's game over.
     
  7. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    So to get this out of the guessing game: how long does it take to cut through one cruiser? Pretty fast I assume from what I saw in the game! So no need for being a sitting duck for long... just fly by and slice it up.
     
  8. Commander_Andersen

    Commander_Andersen Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    There’s around 30 fighters in total.
     
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  9. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Which were protecting the Fortitude as it went in, though a few could've been helping out Nien Nunb and the Tantive IV.
     
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  10. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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  11. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Alpha class gunboat design is a spinoff from the Lambda class Imperial shuttle. It is clearly an Imperial ship design from Cygnus shipworks. On the page for the actual battle that the gunbout featured in canon , you can also see that the Rebels also lost a Lambda class shuttle.
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Skirmish_in_the_Recluse's_Nebula
    I would therefore assume that the gunboats are stolen imperial ships, like the Rebels Lambda class shuttles are.
     
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  12. TheNerdyOne_

    TheNerdyOne_ Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think that's a bit of a stretch to assume that simply because the Rebels also lost a Lambda in the same battle. They could very easily be non-Imperial ships in canon.

    The Imperial design roots really aren't so clear. Yes, it has a general shape more or less reminiscent of the Lambda, but the details muddy the waters a bit. With a different cockpit and color scheme, I could definitely see it as an Imperial ship. But as it is, I would have to agree that it's much closer in design language to the Rebellion. At the very least, canon making it a Rebels ship would make sense to a degree.
     
  13. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I see the opposite. It would be a stretch to assume that a ship design that was made in real life to look like it's from the same family as the Lambda class shuttle (notice they both still have the greek alphabet name also), is now in canon no longer from the same manufacturer just because it was once used by Rebels, who were known to be using stolen ships that came from that same manufacturer.

    Common sense would say that the Gunboat is an imperial ship stolen by the rebels along with its big brother Lambda-class shuttles, rather than make up a whole new background for the ship that was not what the person that designed the actual model originally intended.

    Edit: I just also noticed that while not really canon, the Alpha -class gunboat is mentioned in the Wookieepedia canon page for Cygnus Shipworks due to its 2017 X-Wing miniatures game model.

    Edit II: Interestingly there is actually a mission in the old X-wing video game ( its first appearance) where you have to disable and capture Alpha-class gunboats. Coincidence?
     
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  14. seeker_two

    seeker_two Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Cygnus sold their ships almost exclusively to the Empire....much like Sienar did.

    Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
     
  15. Wrinty

    Wrinty Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm guessing we're going to get a ton of High Republic navy and ground vehicles in project luminous. I would guess that the Republic has stronger standing military (in terms of actually having a military force) during this period than the pre-pt old republic.
     
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  16. P4KISTAN

    P4KISTAN Jedi Master star 1

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    Not entirely too sure about that given how EP2 detailed on the lack for a military (or better yet the lack of a need for a military) over a 1000 year period....

    But I can imagine the judical forces being much stronger (and much more cohesive with jedi) in 232 BBY
     
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  17. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would hope that would be the case too, see some cool new Republic, or even better PSF, warship and ground vehicle designs, as well as a much larger military presence. However, I am leaning towards that this won't happen as well. I am thinking it will focus on more smaller scale stories, but I hope I am wrong.
     
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  18. bsmith7174

    bsmith7174 Jedi Master star 3

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    [​IMG]
    this came out today. If anyone gets it they should share any interesting new info
     
  19. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Fixed request in quote.
     
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  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Was about to say.
     
  21. Pons

    Pons Jedi Knight star 2

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    Some new details on the Onager:
    • KDY design, licensed to Rothana Heavy Engineering for production
    • Costs 376.5 million credits
    • Primary hyperdrive class 1.75, secondary class 6
    • Armament: 2 superheavy composite beam turbolasers/orbital bombardment particle cannons, 6 twin heavy turbolaser batteries, 24 heavy turbolaser batteries, 20 point defense laser cannons.
    • Complement: 6 Lambda-class shuttles, 36 TIE fighters
    • Deflector shields are concentrated up front, exposing the rear. Like the Xystons, the destruction of the main armament is fatal to the ship.
    • Used by the Imps as a fleet-killer, usually tasked with destroying the flagship while weaker enemies were taken out by escorting ISDs.
    Also included is the Assertor-class Command Dreadnought, which isn't currently part of Armada to my knowledge. Listed specs are identical to Legends; only new things are the art and slight name change.
    [​IMG]
     
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  22. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What was the first source to say TIE Fighters didn't have shields, did it come from production notes, or was it a later published source?
     
  23. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I think I asked that a while ago...didn't really get an answer though.
     
  24. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    I seem to remember the video game X-Wing being the first source to say this for sure.
     
  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Didn't West End Games say that before the X-Wing video game did?