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Force Lightning and False Limbs, what's Lucas' view?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sith-Pirate, May 17, 2005.

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  1. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Indeed? He obviously hasn't heard of the F7 functioin key then. Worked in Outcast for me. :D
     
  2. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    You know, I don't actually recall Luke using Force lightning in DE, but I haven't read it in a while. If he does do it with his right hand, here's a theory about how: If I recall correctly, Luke had his artificial hand replaced by Palpatine in DE. He said something about his new hand being better. Maybe Palpatine or one of his dark side adepts invented a new kind of prosthetic which can use force lightning. I always wondered what Luke meant by the new hand being better. This could actually explain it.
     
  3. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He needs a living conduit to use Force Lightening, you say? Why on earth does that mean he can only use it through his arms?!

    You give me one good reason why Vader can't shoot lightening from his belly button. Or his nipples.
     
  4. TIEDefenderPilot

    TIEDefenderPilot Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Maybe the fact that you need fingers or at least a hand to use Force Lightning is on the same page in the Jedi/Sith Manual that says you can't poke your opponent in the eyes with your fingers ala Three Stooges.

    Ah, the dreaded two finger eye poke; not even the mighty four sabers of Grievous can stand up to that, or a pie in the face.
     
  5. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    You give me one good reason why Vader can't shoot lightening from his belly button. Or his nipples.

    Here's one-- his entire body, or what's left of it, is completely covered by his suit, which also houses his life support system. That is, you know, the thing that keeps him alive. Shooting lightning from anywhere on his body would require it to go through his life support systems-- ruining them, and killing Vader in the process.
     
  6. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, shush. You'll ruin all my fun. ;)
     
  7. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I'm not sure how Lucas stated it, but in Star Wars Insider they say you need a limb to aim the Lightning.

    So does that mean one can use any um, ah... extruding appendage?
     
  8. Fist_of_Mandalore

    Fist_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Probaly life-support there as well. We all know that is the real reason Vader is so angry.
     
  9. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    So does that mean one can use any um, ah... extruding appendage?

    You kiddin' me? It's hard enough to aim that thing without steadying it with a hand, why would you want to try to shoot lightning out of it if your hands aren't available?
     
  10. darth_paul

    darth_paul Jedi Master star 5

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    Of course, Trioculus rigs Vader's glove to fake Sith lightning, right? So just because it looks like Force lightning doesn't mean it is. Although admittedly it would be a little weird for Luke to put lightning generators in his artificial hand. Kinda hard to explain to Leia.

    I think the simplest solution to the Luke thing would be simply to say that which hand he used was flipped in the comic. After all, we only work out explanations for Ponda Baba wearing a fake arm to elevate his social status, and draw the line at coming up with the technology that causes Vader's chestplate to flip around or the strange hair growth patterns that move Obi-Wan's braid from one side to the other in the blink of an eye.

    -Paul
     
  11. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You kiddin' me? It's hard enough to aim that thing without steadying it with a hand, why would you want to try to shoot lightning out of it if your hands aren't available?

    I see your point. Not to mention any officer he intended to use it on would likely cry "rape"

    I think the simplest solution to the Luke thing would be simply to say that which hand he used was flipped in the comic

    Nobody's even certain if it applies to Luke since he was severed at the wrist. Anakin is severed above the elbow, so there's alot more machinery in the way compared to Luke.
     
  12. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Can someone explain to me why Force lightning can only emanate from a hand, and not like an elbow or a knee? (and before someone else make the joke, a Sith's butt) I would assume it only needs living tissue, but not necessarily a hand.
     
  13. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Honestly, that's why this thread was created. Nobody knows for sure if you need a hand, or just arms.

    The only hint I've read is that Lucas says the fingers are used as a conduit. Also Star Wars Insider says you need an appendage to aim the Lightning with and I guess since Vader's cut above the elbow, and he's got prosthetics on, he can't.

    So it leads to many questions.

    1. Can Luke use Lightning with his right hand?

    2. Can one use Lightning with gloves on like Jerec?

    3. Can one use different appendages besides arms?

    4. What's the exact reason why Anakin (before the suit) can't fire lightning through his prosthetic?
     
  14. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Toes should work too then? :)

    If it was me, I'd use my nose since I could aim simply by looking at something.
     
  15. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Another thought:

    The reason Sith & Jedi use their hands & arms for lightning is it's a pretty familiar motion to stick your hand out at something. Can you imagine trying to aim with your knees? :p
     
  16. seeker_two

    seeker_two Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In DE, didn't Luke get a new cybernetic hand? Maybe the improved model allowed him to use Force lighning as well as a biological hand....

    What I'd like to see is Force lightning used in conjunction w/ martial-arts-style punches & kicks. Now THAT would make for an awesome fight scene... :D
     
  17. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I always thought that Luke should have taken the hand from his clone from TTT and had it attached.
     
  18. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Well if one listens to chinese and spiritualist teachings the energy body has energy ports on the hands and soles of the feet where energy transfers take place....

    if you base this concept with the Force (as much of it already seems similar) then transferring your Force energy into lightning and throwing it at somebody would go through your hands..... now I don't know whats suppose to happen to that theory if you lose them
     
  19. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I always thought that Luke should have taken the hand from his clone from TTT and had it attached.

    Funny you mentioned that because I wondered myself, with all the advanced technology they have, why can't they clone body parts?

    There's a Star Trek book where Kirk loses both of his hands because they got badly burned and they cloned him two new ones.
     
  20. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Question 5-- can one toast bread and/or roast marshmallows with the lightning?

    And if the answer is yes, does shooting the lightning out of one's "other" appendage make said foods taste differently? :confused:
     
  21. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's gross dude.
     
  22. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Funny you mentioned that because I wondered myself, with all the advanced technology they have, why can't they clone body parts?

    There's a Star Trek book where Kirk loses both of his hands because they got badly burned and they cloned him two new ones.


    Perhaps the Clone Wars not only caused some people to dislike droids, but perhaps the entire process of cloning became taboo. Or maybe Palpatine outlaws cloning (and switches to conscripts) to prevent anyone from getting any ideas about overthrowing the Empire with a clone army.
     
  23. jawajames

    jawajames Former RSA // stawars.com contributor star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Funny you mentioned that because I wondered myself, with all the advanced technology they have, why can't they clone body parts?


    My theory is that cloned body parts or any sort of transplant might work fine on a regular person (indeed in the Clone Wars, doctors like having interchangeable parts when patching up the troops) but the Force might go really wonky when a graft is used on a Force-user. Midichlorians might reject a new limb, even if it is a clone, or the original (if it died)... overall it might be an abomination of the Force, not useful to either the Jedi or the Sith.
    and thus Jedi have to go with prosthetics, even though everyone else can go with cloned organs and parts.

    Kirk can get new hands cloned for him - but Picard had to get an artificial heart.


     
  24. Quinnocent-Till-Sith

    Quinnocent-Till-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Luke Skywalker uses lightning? I thought it was said that only Sith can use it - not Dark Jedi - which was said after Quinlan Vos and Volfe Karkko used it.
     
  25. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Luke was taught by Palpatine, so he learned from a Sith.

    But didn't Joruus C'Boath use Force lightning in TTT?
     
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