Lit From Endor to Exegol - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (Tagged Victory's Price Spoilers)

I like The Tarkin....seems a little more feasible than the DS...basically a mobile planet destroying artillery piece as opposed to a moon sized mobile base. Give it an escort fleet and you will be just fine.

 

I'd love to see a return to Coruscant in TROS. One of the best ways to bring it back would be to make it the capital planet of the First Order and make the Jedi Temple /Imperial Palace the seat of his power. And it would be nice to see the senate building again and maybe a scene set inside, which shows how the First Order deals with acting as the new galactic government.

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Coruscant is a symbol of the old, of corruption. I hope it's not shown, especially not in a "look it's a victory because we're back on Coruscant" way. Moving off of that planet is one of the best decisions made by the New Republic.

 

Just for me laughing out loud in cinema I want them to show Coruscant but not Prequel one, post-NJO Green Coruscant please! And then imagine the fans calling for backstory and explanations! Especially if random background Yuuzhan Vong walk around like any new background species. Come on you know you want it too!

Jokes aside, if they show it I want it changed. Without being the galactic focus and center it may evolve away from greedy corruption and towards rebeautifying the city, more green. Some nice artistic designs woven in, classic brutalism merged with modern innovative architecture.

Or just show Coruscant from space and have it passed by with whatever ship is the focus going to its moon actually and show us a new location.

 

While I agree it was a great call on the New Republic’s part to not have the capital there, I do think that symbolically having the trilogy end there would be cool. It doesn’t have to be the new capitol, but it could be the site of some sort of ceremony.

—Adm. Nick

 

Kylos new capital will be Tatooine to honor his grandfather. He will control the spice in the verse! It shall reign on Tatooine and he will ride exogorths through the dunes!

 

Or what about a Coruscant evolving more into looking like McQuarrie's paintings of the planet? His version of Coruscant was far more beautiful and amazing than what was shown in the Prequels and the shows imo.

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Thought a bit more about possible parallels between Dark Empire and the ST. What about the scenes in the Aftermath Trilogie, where Leia feels darkness surrounding Ben while he was still in her womb and shortly after his birth.

At the times when the books were released, most of us including me thought that there might be a connection to Snoke and/or the well of the dark side in the unknown regions.

With the revelation of Palpatine being in TROS, i think it's more likely that it was Sheev.

In this case it's amazingly similar to him trying to possess Anakin Solo during Empire's End.

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Great connection! Now if the Knights of Ren are older than Kylo, they could be former Emperor's Hands that were tasked to find and protect Kylo who had been choosen as future avatar of the Emperor. Children the Emperor before ROTJ trained and collected as peers for his future self. Did they infiltrate Lukes order as apprentices? Befriend Kylo? Or did some of them die and get replaced by the students Kylo took with him?

If they are connected or offshoot of the Emperors Hands... will one turn on the others and join the good guys Kam Solusar style? Imagine Matt Smith betraying the Knights of Ren and joining Rey... Kylo vows to hunt and kill him. Rey defends him. Kylo knows who he really is, Rey does not. The carrier of Palpatines soul, not taken over but having it ride along, as the Emperor did in Legends to one of his hands.

Maybe another of the hands was Mara Jade in canon, who even tried to get close to Luke to flirt/kill/both him. But unlike Legends, it ended with a relationship status of "It's complicated" as she for the last time ever updated her holonet profile from a relaystation near Jakku. Guess her and canon Lumiya were vying for Lukes attention and the duel of the ladies ended different in canon. Or we take Mara's Dark Empire paralell running backstory of being captured by Cronal/Pestage (Snoke?) and no canon Kyle Katarn, etc. team rescued her cause Rogue One killed Cassian "Katarn" Andor.


Now Rey needs to find a lightsaber stash below a hibernating old Neti mumbling "I am Groot" and we are done. Well unless they topp it off with an appearance of Saw Gerrerras beloved Onderon as in Empires End... with a Saw statue in background?

 

So, the official solicitation for Allegiance is out. As mentioned prior, this arc is very Mon Cala centric. One thing that caught my eye is that the solicitation notes that there are some on the planet who are opposed to aiding the Resistance due to the risk it brings to Mon Cala.

This is actually a very interesting story hook and one that makes good sense. When you consider the last +/- 50 years of Mon Cala history, they suffered the following:

• A civil war during the Clone Wars
• Imperial bombardment and occupation
• Enslavement

Through this all, the Mon Calamari & Quarren found the grit and determination to rise up and join the Rebellion, as well as become a founding member of the New Republic. However, in light of the First Order's decimation of the New Republic government and it's march through the Galaxy, I can understand why some people on the world wouldn't want to risk another occupation and invasion. I'd imagine that the fear of outright destruction by some unknown weapon drives that fear.

Anyways, its refreshing to see a story like this and I think that the implications for the Galaxy in general and Mon Cala in particular make this a very cool lead in to TROS.

--Adm. Nick

 

I think it would be really neat if there was a role reversal of sorts, with the Quarren being pro-Resistance and the Mon Cala being on the belligerent, more cautious side of things.

 

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The Mon Cala read the Dark Empire comics, they know what's gonna happen if they join in this war.

 

Wow they really could be doing Dark Empire huh

 

They already have been.

 

Nah... given World Devastators were already on Lothal, they'd do Legacy instead and poison the oceans!

 

Those MC80 Evacuation Cruisers are so damn pretty...

 

One thing everyone agrees on: Cam Kennedy knows how to draw kick arse starships.

 

Knowing how Fricking Nutty the First Order and its personnel are. I wouldn't rule them out.

 

While scouting through WOOKIPEDIA (The most reliable of all sources of Star Wars ;p) I found this little line about the New Republic which would be interesting to see if anyone picks up on

 

I'm still waiting for an adaptation of Uprising so we can get some closure to that game.

 

General question on the state of the galaxy in the new EU (not necessarily post-ROTJ): has it been explicitly mentioned if the Republic/Empire/NR/FO have an explicit "human supremacy" ideology or bias? If not, has anything in the new EU addressed why humans are everywhere and usually in-charge?

 

I had always associated this theme with the old EU in that it has a more sci-fi (as opposed to space fantasy/opera) slant to it - in other words, out-of-universe, the reason it hasn't been raised in new canon materials may be that human main characters are probably typically more resonant with audiences, and inter-species relations doesn't really add much to Star Wars' explicit subjects, i.e. high-level matters of individual character. Ideologies regarding species supremacy would seem to fit more with Star Trek than with, say, Lord of the Rings (and I'd say Star Wars has more in common with the latter than the former). Star Wars is less concerned with ideology than with matters of fundamental morality and other high-level philosophical themes.

If we wanted to add an in-universe explanation, perhaps humans are simply the most common sentient species in the GFFA. Regardless, even though the majority of the central characters in the various stories are human, there doesn't seem to be much indication given either way regarding "species supremacy" - we never see any characters put down specifically for being non-human, or explicitly singled out for favour for being human, et cetera. (As for why humans in general seem to be "in-charge," this does often seem to be the case, but then again, the Chancellor of the New Republic in the ST era was non-human - though I don't have the Visual Dictionary handy to remind me of his name and species).

 

Because they bread like rats and are willing to do dangerous stuff for fame, money or their own land, making them the most numerous and spread out species. And in a democracy they will often vote on one of their owns.

 

What's kind of odd is that the FO, while more fanatical than the Empire, seems to be a little less sexist -- which OOU reflects more even-handed casting, but IU suggests an uptick in progressiveness that's at odds with the overall narrative.

I do have a bit of an issue with the ST (which I like a lot generally) presenting almost exclusively new alien species -- it make the GFFA look even more human-dominated when the 5 to 10 species that used to appear in relatively plentiful numbers -- never rivaling the human population but common enough in the PT and OT to suggest some galactic prominence -- are gone. Resistance and the comics (now that there a few more set in the ST era) are putting bit of a band-aid on it, but while I like the new alien designs for the most part, I'll always wish they'd come up with more new ship designs, and fewer new aliens.

 

Maybe Rae Sloane was behind that, in-universe?