Lit From Endor to Exegol - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (Tagged Victory's Price Spoilers)

From TPM:

"The Congress of Malastare concurs with the honorable delegate from the Trade Federation. A commission must be appointed."

Spoken by Senator Aks Moe, a Gran.

--Adm. Nick

 

Well

Spoiler

I think the Resistance has been fighting, but the New Republic, naturally, hasn't been. After all, that's why the Resistance exists.

 

I hope the canon situation is similar to the one in Emissaries of Malastare. I love how they took the Dug's who we had only seen through Sebulba, and really humanized them for lack of a better term. The fact that clear colonialist governments are allowed to speak for a planet they subjugate via indentured servitude and the like - is something I think is really important to showcase. Much as I defend the Republic in some regards, this is really messed up and sadly reflects our world startlingly well.

 

I agree with this 100% - I think it's a really interesting, complex dynamic. I wonder if the Gran have allowed for certain regions or continents where Dugs exist autonomously. After all, Malastare is described as a forest world but the place the Republic set down was, uh, not that.

 

Malastare has been one of the few planets that have seen have multiple environments. In Bounty Hunter alone there are jungle and high mountain ranges, and I remember there being some variety in the Racer games as well.

Fair enough, that is probably the better approach.

 

Sure - what I mean is that it makes sense that if the Gran allowed Dugs some autonomy to rule themselves, it would be in less appealing parts of the planet.

 

Or maybe the gran we see as senators are senators on Coruscant because of the same reason many people are given positions as ambassadors or sent to represent their country in EU or UN: the ruling politicians don't want them around where they are.

For all we know so could the three gran we see representing Malastare are maybe an attempt from the dugs to show how tolerant they are by sending some of their gran minority to represent their planet.

 

Could also be a Mon Cal / Quarren type of situation or Utapau with the Utai and Pau'ans....not necessarily talking the animosity we have seen in some sources with regards to Mon Cala...but the Gran tend to be those who want to look outwards and the Dugs want to focus on home. By accepting that of each other they get along and run the planet pretty well to the benefit of all.

 

Speaking of senatorial representation, one thing we don't talk a lot about is that the New Republic Senate appears to have two senators per member world. A senior and junior senator, as shown in Bloodline. So, we have a unicameral legislature that models both a parliamentary system and the US Senate's setup.

To the best of my knowledge, all canon instances of New Republic senators are tied to world representation, not species representation. Which makes a lot of sense, IMO. Almost makes me wonder if one of the conditions of membership in the New Republic is having a unified, representative planetary government, like the Federation requires in Star Trek. This wouldn't surprise at all, given how much the New Republic focuses on democratic and egalitarian ideals.

--Adm. Nick

 

It's true, nothing is set in stone until the films are done. If JJ decides that he wants a fleet of New Republic warships to arrive, the visual guide for the film would simply state "While the home fleet was destroyed as Hosnian Prime, some New Republic warships survived. Commodore So'in'So's fleet was returning from a tour in the Outer Rim when Hosnian Prime was destroyed. Following the Resistance's stand at Crait, So'in'So linked up with General Organa's survivors and became the core of the new Rebel fleet."

Matt Martin echoed something similar on Twitter the other day. Stuff will be kept vague in many cases until the films are done. As it should be.

--Adm. Nick

 

Hopefully, the New Republic's forces will join the Resistance and submit to their authority.

*AdmiralNick22 twitches*

 

Well, I think that the Resistance is done. Note the switch over the course of the film to using the term "Rebel" or "Rebellion". I suspect all the good guys in IX (an amalgamation of remaining Resistance, New Republic, allied worlds, independent factions, etc) will all be called the Rebellion or New Rebellion.

--Adm. Nick

 

I find Japan overrepresented in speculative fiction so unless its some of the lesser seen eras or cultures of Japan (like the pre-Kamakura periods or the Ainu people) do I think that they should use some of the other Asian cultures.

you know, an advanced non-nomadic culture whose architecture, clothing and other was influenced by the Mongols (any era) would be interesting to see.

 

I think a hodge podge of different Asian cultures. Some Japanese, some Chinese, etc...

 

While I love the Sequel Trilogy, there is some basis for the "Diet Galactic Civil War: Less Taste, Less Filling" argument, at least in terms of the war itself. I think that the characters have been incredibly strong in the ST, but the entire setup for the war and it's execution hasn't been the best. It's clear that they wanted to capture the dynamic of "Empire vs. Rebels". At the end of the day, it is what it is, but I would definitely like IX to feel different.

--Adm. Nick

 

So, I've been wondering how the New Republic handles pilots, officers, etc who join the Resistance. It's clear that this happens, I'm surprised we haven't see any repercussions. It's becoming more and more apparent that the New Republic "tolerance" of the Resistance was more than that (at least, unofficially), so I'm wondering how the NRDF handled pilots who joined up. Are they considered deserters? Do they simply resign their posts? Is it quietly handled so that nothing appears amiss?

Ditto the PSF's. The visual guides say that NRDF and PSF pilots make up the majority of the Resistance's starfighter corps. I assume that member worlds of the New Republic have to handle things similar to the NRDF.

Thoughts?

--Adm. Nick

 

It would be cool if there was a new series about the Resistance that could answer these questions.....Oh....wait a minute... .

I get Resistance is kind of marketed to kids to sell the toys...but enough adults watch and I think we have these more adult questions we want answered.

 

That's an interesting question and I hope we receive an answer. My guess is that the NR let's them leave. If their term is up, they probably resign and then join with Leia. If there service isn't over, they're probably officially considered deserters and condemned. However, secretly I'd imagine the NR supports them leaving. I assume the New Republic's policy is to support the Resistance while maintaining as much deniability as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if military leaders, even suggest joining the Resistance to certain soldiers.

 

maybe they are on 'shooting leave' while working with the Resistance?

 

In Kaz's case - well, last time the NR saw him he was damaged and holding off a FO ace. I imagined he is listed as MIA, presumed dead.

Heck, even if the NR does know, any sympathetic to the Resistance could still list him as missing in action for the sake plausible deniability.

 

I think we could look at American pilots who left the service for the Flying Tigers during WWII: pilots were released from the service with not just a wink and a nod, but a pat on the back that pushed them out the door. I also wonder if the T-70s used by the Resistance were part of some kind of "Cash and Carry" program the NR set up, or if they all "fell off the back of the truck" when the fleet upgraded to T-85s.

I'm sure Resistance pilots could be easily reintegrated back into the Republic Navy if it remains the senior military command structure after all the dust clears. If the Resistance military becomes the core of whatever comes next, then I guess it's a moot point.

This was my read of that scene. Kaz was calling his father to tell him that reports of his death had been greatly exaggerated.

 

Thinking as someone who has been in the military....if Kaz did not report in and just went off to Castilon to be a spy he would be in deep poodoo. He has a responsibility after that to check in and confirm he completed the mission and let his chain of command know he is alive. Not doing that will make him a deserter.

There is an old intelligence term...Sheep Dip..."The practice within the intelligence community of assigning to agents non-intelligence or military jobs in order to disguise their source agency."

Maybe the NR does something like that....they Nerf Dip people who go over to the Resistance.