Lit Galactic Elections 2020: Post-IX Reunification Summit

While adressed in this or that topic already, I think a deepdive is needed in its own. Post Episode IX, the galaxy needs a new government, or several, and aside our personal wishes for it, lets look at it from an inuniverse pov and factor in all relevant parties involved!

The Factions:
-The New Republic Remnant (Senators, Military Command, etc.)
-Centrists within the NR Remnant as well as former First Order Separatists
-Populists within the NR Remnant as well as new ones
-The Galactic Aristocracy (supported by most monarchies and the old Houses)
-The Free States (Hutt Space and other post Aftermath nations that lasted till Sequels)
-Galactic Commerce and Economy who sent large freighter etc. forces to Exegol
-The Free Folk (smugglers, pirates, criminals, outlaws and individuals that took part and either want to stay and have a say or cut out their own territory)
-all kinds of PT, OT, etc. factions too of course (as per guide and sourcebooks)
-Militarists and rogue military forces
-Forcecults and the new Jedi as well as other newly awakened Forceusers
-Rim Faction vs. Core Faction, as old as time (Coruscant vs. Alsakan or Coruscant vs. Tiion)

Galaxywide known War Heroes:
-General Baron Landonis Balthazar Calrissian III.
-Finn
-Galactic Crown Princess Rey (Palpatine) Skywalker
-General Poe Dameron


Now to some problematic topics:
-The moneymakers and warprofiteers of Canto Bight, etc. are still out and about, unless the Sith affiliated ones were on Exegol as nonforcesensitive Cultists for the spectacle.
-The rich and mighty still own galactic companies and organisations and pay many people
-They certainly will try to influence the election and future in their favor and lobby a lot
-What if they even smelled the turn of the tide and abandoned Palpatine and sent their owned fleets of freighters and ships against him to Exegol, just to be on the winning side and save from prosecution?


On the planetary level, most governments are individual and kept going despite the NR fall or FO takeovers. Any galactic government, no matter what type or form is chosen, or if a galaxywide one at all, has to provide some basic conditions for member worlds to stick with it. No matter how democratic, republican, autocratic or else, it has to tend to the basic needs of its members. Protection, trade, security economically and socially, etc.


As the largest factions, the former NR will rally democracy supporters to their side, whereas Centrists might do the same but on a more central approach. We are back to the old divide again. Independency loving entities like rogues, smugglers, pirates, Hutts etc. probably seek to ensure the respectation of their borders however they might be defined now and if they can keep any territory they freed. And while the people fleet that freed the galaxy was people, it will coalesce down into groups and factions with the largest ones getting most say or able to enforce their opinions most. As politicians talk and talk, equality is endangered by power games once more. Factions without the power, money or fleets to ensure safety and protection will not be able to hold on to power and those that got those are influenced or owned by those that profitted from past wars. No idealists would be chosen to unite or raise armies and fleets after election only. The game gets dirty and with no Jedi Order to mediate, are the people truly ready to create something lasting? This new world, open, undecided and chaotic is ripe for opportunities, be they economic or political... or for criminals. Charisma like Leia and Landos could unite the galaxy but can't keep it running on fumes alone.

Cue the galactic Aristocracy, tried and true concepts, authority and the monetary power to keep the peace and command fleets and economy. Not all of them were war profiteers. And those now might position one of theirs for galactic rule, maybe even as counter to the profiteers own candidates.

For simplicities sake they might opt for a redrawing of the borders to the pre-FO state. Then new territories in UR and elsewhere are split up between Centrists and New Republic who attempt talks of a merger into one galactic government, with lesser nations part of the talks maybe or maybe not. Without any galactic order or government, one cannot purge war profiteers, bad systems and reform what had been infiltrated and corrupted. So any new government might put everything up for inspection and either reform or adaption to new realities, leaving no stone or position unturned in the light of former Sith infiltration and manipulations for decades.

Kinda, imagine the redrawing of the borders as a post WW2 scenario where germanies occupations were returned to their former borders (with some alterations as german territory was reduced and poland and others got new borders as well). Then merger talks of Centrists and New Republic might be akin to the fall of Soviet Union and East and West Germany merging. Centrist territory cut up into smaller pieces and and some merging with the NR, some later maybe only.

 

@ColeFardreamer

To quote Eckhartsladder during his Rise of Skywalker review...The next government is just gonna be Poe...It will be called Poe and the currency and flag will just be Poe's big head ;p

Gonna put two articles from our own @CooperTFN though that you might like

Article 1: http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2020/02/the-pitch-reys-to-do-list/

Article 2: http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2019/...warrior-the-case-against-a-galactic-republic/

Article 3: http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2019/09/the-case-against-a-galactic-republic-continuing-thoughts/

 

Thx for linking Coops articles. They really fit well here.

As for Poe, no thx. I do not like this failure of a character they stuck on to the ST without intending to originally.

In TFA Poe failed and his mission fell to BB8 solo and then Rey.
In TLJ Poe failed big time and had to learn a lot of things, getting people killed left and right.
In TROS Poe failed even more epically than ever before while stalling for the true heroes by stacking up dead bodies that might be alive had they not followed him but a true leader with a plan.

I love his fancy flying special effects, but as a character? No thx. He only served as Finn's bromance buddy. And to this day fans claim Poe is part of the ST Big Three... I cannot say again and again how wrong that is given that third spot is Ben/Kylos.

Sorry for the rant!


And what is it with this constant Eckhardsladder or other youtuber stuff being flooding TFN? I kinda hate that. I mean, every joe can read and then blabla about SW on youtube channels or podcasts. I stay away from those as far as possible for I dislike these attention seeking folks that only recite what others thought and wrote elsewhere.

Besides, why watch a 5-10+ minutes video if the same can be summed up in less than half a minute in words and reading them? Not worth my limited time.

 

@ColeFardreamer

Your welcome

Don't agree with anything you said about Poe but okay.

Also because I like these Youtubers and there fun to listen too and think they have interesting things too say.

It's fun, and watching videos is fun for me. No need to be judgy.

 

Pirate King Ohnaka the Great Reunificator (Self proclaimed)

 

I'd live under the reign of King Hondo any day

 

Great... now I have Pirates of the Carribbean vibes with like 7 Pirate Lordships... Hondo Ohnaka for one, Maz Kanata another, etc.

 

Hondo / Lando team-up

 

Londo? Hando?

 

For one, I'd like to borrow the name of the galactic government from Legends that came after the New Republic in-continuity, being the Galactic Alliance. It just more or less fits, honestly.

Fanon scenario: A week after the Battle of Exegol, most contingents and fleets from the massive galactic fleet has returned to their various sectors, such as Hutt's, private companies, commerce freighters, planetary defense fleets, etc. Resistance high command convenes a special meeting with Poe, Finn, and Rey, and various generals and such. They discuss the makings of a new, loose, "Galactic Alliance" that will not aim to be a replica of the failed Republic, and to avoid the evil of an Empire, or FO from creeping from within, and without.

They ensure that this new Alliance would restore the parliamentary system, with the chancellor only granted powers to conduct peaceful operations, such as trade, commerce, economy, etc. He would also be required by law, to remove judges from the judicial branch and add in new ones that belong to his opposite political party, to provide a complex but safe check against a Chancellor from owning the Judiciary. The Senate would be the only government body capable of making military decisions, and also requiring a 2/3rds majority to pass any bills. The military would be needed to safeguard against any FO-esque threats from arising in the future, which will inevitably tie in with the incoming Jedi Order.

Attempting to learn from their errors in the past, Rey makes a NATO-esque agreement between any future Jedi Order and the Alliance. The Jedi Order would remain detached and removed from the Republic in a broad sense, responsible for their own funding, facilities, and training. They would also not be required as peacekeeping, or escort roles for Senators and such. However, only in the instance of a military attack on the Republic, or a sudden and identifiable Sith infiltration of high offices, they would be required by constitutional law to assist the Alliance military force or to remove possible Sith infiltrators. All of the above would be enshrined into a new and unalterable constitution, with the Chancellor required to serve for a term limit of four years, and nevermore.

In keeping with the moniker of the Alliance title, planets that fall under Alliance borders mostly would be responsible for maintaining their own law and order while also respecting broad constitutional ideals. If a planet were to file for secession, it would be granted and instead be treated simply as a friendly partner. If a planet were to join, there would virtually be no difference from when they were independent and from when they'd join.

These are ideals that potentially could be reached from within a five, to ten year time span after Exogol. After this point, let's see what may occur.

 

While I can see already potential trouble with that setup, it is a good remarkeable starting point.

Limiting the Chancellor office is good, but making some safety measures too unaltereable is risky given time and change are a natural demand that evolution requires. Even the most basic constituation needs adaption over time but that should not come easy either.

While admirable in generalisation, I think one needs to face the deeper details that are more complicated. While local laws and enforcement are strengthened and species individual governing takes precedence in that approach, how to protect visitors, settlers and trade where species mingle, be it colonies or visitors on species homeworlds? Would this Alliance allow Trandoshans to eat humans if it is natural to them? Would religious customs be respected even if they step on others freedom or traditions? The devil is in the details and who/when/why /how sets standards for everyone.

What can be standardized by GA and what cannot and remains local? What are the consequences then, like restricting travel to and from some cultures to preserve them and avoid such intercultural issues?

So without any species setting the standard, like humanity did for millennia mostly, what would be the general consensus and ideal? Law of Nature? Good luck figuring out what exactly is law of nature and what is not when it comes to social and evolutionary stuff. I doubt they agree on rule of the strongest and survival of the fittest like the Sith and FO tried. The Law of the Force likewise is difficult to interpret and enact, as Jedi and Sith have tried in the past.

And to remind us of the social issues that the Orville highlited, how to act when a local law backs something others do not agree with? When to intervene and when not to? How long ago has it have been implemented to warrant it as socially grown and essential? Whati f it was built on a lie or otherwise misconception?

 

King Lando sounds good to me. Or even King Hondo. Not like Hondo could possibly do any worse than Villecham. Come to think of it, did Villecham ever have a single line of dialogue anywhere?

 

Knowing what we know now, I'm interested in whether people think the NR's weaknesses were ultimately Palpatine's fault, or baked in. Giving more weight to the former means they wouldn't really need to reinvent the wheel post-ROS, just reconstitute what was already a solid foundation--giving more weight to the latter means figuring out exactly how Mothma and Leia ****ed up so the new system doesn't repeat those flaws. But then, if Mothma and Leia couldn't build a lasting galactic government, can anyone?

 

I mean even if Palpatine weren't around does their REALLY have to be that much post change? Like....The New Republic didn't really collapse from within and become the First Order...It's capital was attacked which caused chaos and allowed the FO to blitzkrieg itself right through the galaxy.

Remember: Empire's (Or in this case Republics ;p) destroyed from without can be rebuilt, but to decay and fall from within, that's that's...forever.

 

Three words: Canonized Natasi Daala.

 

I just want a competent New Republic, portrayed as good people actually doing good things. Something like how Legacy II portrayed the Triumvirate; something of a utopia in progress.

The EU had a concerning tendency to portray the Empire as powerful and efficient, while democratic governments were useless and corrupt by comparison. While the NuCanon has dropped the Imperial apologia, the portrayal of the NR remains. Now maybe this is harsh, but continuing the "democracy bad" narrative just seems like an endorsement of the Empire without saying it outright. It probably isn't intentional, but motivations shouldn't matter. Star Wars has always been political, and the PT showed the Republic as weak for a reason. The ST doing the same undermines the original narrative in my opinion. Shattering the NR immediately seems like a vindication of the Empire, and especially the progressive Imperials of the EU.

As a side note I'd like to add that I really enjoyed the Empire of the EU. The books slowly made them out to be a respectable faction. Within the context of the stories they seemed fairly decent for the most part. But OOU I obviously think this was very irresponsible and really damaged the core messages of Star Wars. Basically, if the EU could've been started from scratch I'd say to never go down the rabbit hole of redeeming the Empire. Luckily, the NuCanon is a chance to do just that, but I think the path they've taken could've been a lot better in this particular regard.

 

Oh, I agree--but between the (completely natural) political divisions portrayed in Bloodline and the (heavy handed) ST winks toward a fatal noninterventionism I think people have tended toward the idea that if they'd just done x or y differently Hosnian could have been prevented. Which I never really bought into but seems even less likely now that we know Sheev still had his decaying little fingers in everything.

 

Rae Sloane, mysteriously absent from the latest First Order stories in the movie era may make her comeback after all as compromise candidate. She played imperial savior and uniter before, she might do so again for they need someone the Imperialists and former FO folks look up to and would follow WITHIN any new government given they need to reunify the galaxy and not just rebuild the Republic leaving the Unknown Regions be. And for governance of these new territories and folks that didn't know any other life before the FO they need a compromise candidate maybe.

So there you got your canon Daala! Rae Sloane will take the chancellorship after whoever precedes her fails.

And while I am all for Lando myself, he was not his Legends counterpart, no businessman after his kids kidnapping and a hermit for many years. I doubt his businesses ran themselves in the meantime so whenever he got back had had companies and money at hand? Or did Lobot guide them in his name and absence?

Who of the younger characters may turn to politics? Connix? Professor Beaumont Kin? Rose Tico? They are specialists and have other talents but a politicial career in later life may work out. Still right now immedeately I do not see any of them go to politics.

 

Very fairy...In terms of what THE PEOPLE think....I do think what both Rise of Skywalker was attempting with that grand fleet finale (And even the early scrips of Duel of Fates had this too so this is a recurring theme) is that it seems from what I get is that now THE PEOPLE are more invested in some sort of galactic freedom...Or at the very least they don't want anything even remotely looking like the Empire or old Sheev running the place again. Hence why Lando's fleet in visual dictionary is called "The Peoples Fleet" and the whole "It's not a navy it's just ...People". So it may be people may not need a complete reinvention of the wheel per say especially since it seems they are ready to take a stand as it were.

Granted whether that is in Galactic government or more in that loose confederation idea is another thing, but it does seem like people are ready to take a stand.

Which has been a theme through a bunch of Star Wars projects like Rebels and Resistance when it is the people and not even the formal organization that take the eventually grand stand.

I vote for this slate of candidates any day...Rose Tico and her revolutionary Chanellorship any day ;p

 

Let me throw another candidate into the pool:

Doctor Chelli Lona Aphra for President!

She'd be a nice compromise crossover of all factions and equally loved and loathed by all!

 

It's not the Trandoshans they need to be afriad of.

Slyssk: Hello everyone, I have a message from your friendly neighborhood Trandoshans. While our planet has been demonized for following Imperial orders to enslave Wookiees that Vader personally enforced by killing disobedient Trandoshans, in a democratic society we are absolutely harmless to the galaxy. The same cannot be said of many humans however.

Do you know what Luke Skywalker ate for dinner last night? That's right, deep fried calamari. I heard Admiral Gial Ackbar himself is selling out his own people as restaurant food in exchange for increased power in the New Republic.

 

But what about minorities? Or Trandoshans on other planets? Or non-Trandoshans suppliers and amabassadors on their homeworld? Does the galactic government not protect them? And if locals have to decide local law themselves, we will see lots of local wars to settle this, like insystem between Wookiees and Trandoshans!

Hey, what did you expect from someone who used to fly Tarkin around between various superweapons? But Admiral Snackbar aside, Trandoshans are far from harmless, some Slyssks that are not like the rest of the pack do not change their entire society. The Scorekeeper is watching and demands scores!

That said, that is typical trandoshan right there... deflecting a proper cultural introspection by blaming humans for their own shortcomings. We know our flaws, thank you. You should be glad humans are so used to killing humans. Just imagine they'd all stick together and look for other prey? One might even consider it an achievement of High Human Culture that we bother mostly our own species instead of others. Only those loudly yelling less than 10% Nonhumans that get caught in the crossfire seek attention for some lost limbs, boohoo! Alderaan was a mainly human planet, and yep, humans blew it up. But no, those couple thousand aliens in Invisec on Coruscant and some other working camps claim they had it way worse. You are still alive! Remember Alderaan? Humanity can shoot itself in the foot and keep going. But those Aliens that scream genocide are really exaggerating.

 

I think this just proves that Trandoshans are not themselves bad, but have been brainwashed since birth by a vicious religion. And I don't think replacing one religion with another (the Jedi and their will of the Force) will help here. We need a candidate who can help free the Trandoshans from their superstitions while at the same time recognizing the Jedi for what they are--not people inspired by the divine but genetic mutations that have genetic abilities, no more, no less.

So, I don't know who will fit all that for the galactic election but it probably isn't Rey. Or any other Jedi.