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Discussion in 'Community' started by Jabbadabbado, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  2. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    I think we need a reverse-Turing Test. I've come to think half of you are bots at this point.
     
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  3. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I've often thought beezel was one of the early prototypes.
     
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  4. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    I'm not convinced some of those posters could pass the 30% agreement bar.

    ... Also, seriously, the bar is 30%?
     
  5. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, I thought that 30% was weird. But apparently it comes from his article in Mind: http://loebner.net/Prizef/TuringArticle.html

    Specifically this part:

    Note the following line ("The original question, "Can machines think?" I believe to be too meaningless to deserve discussion.") -- the media coverage over the recent news story seems to have overlooked that part....
     
  6. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    They're also burying the fact that this program has been around for 13 years so, y'know, media coverage.

    Anyway Chinese room 4lyfe. :p
     
  7. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    A 13 year old from the Ukraine...kind of cheating a little but still pretty cool.
     
  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I'm not surprised people are posting this garbage, but it is in fact wholly bogus. That is, the Turing Test applies to an AI and not a chatbot. Also, Kevin Warwick.
     
  9. timmoishere

    timmoishere Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  10. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't say mad, more like not surprised they're still trying to spout this crap. I wonder what those scientists' reactions will be when they die and see God.
     
  11. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    lol

    That was beautiful.
     
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  12. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    DOWN WITH BIG SCIENCE
     
  13. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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  14. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    Do we have to go through the warp drive argument again?
     
  15. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    No. You lost that long ago.
     
  16. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    All the JCers with any physics background (and others, too) explained to you why it doesn't work, and you still think you're right. What a joke.
     
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  17. timmoishere

    timmoishere Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yes, empirical evidence is so overrated. Better to trust an ancient book of fables of questionable origins.
     
  18. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Vivec, jesus, shut up. We all know you study physics and understand it, ok? But given I've no ****ing qualifications in it either, I can clearly see Warp Drives are not only plausible, but consistent with the laws of physics that I actually don't understand as I understand them.

    You think just because you underwent years of study in a field that you know more about it than me, and that's really offensive.

    Now, if we can get back to discussing how warp drives might facilitate time travel?
     
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  19. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    VadersLaMent, I'd really like to know why you are so obsessed with needing warp drives to be real.
     
  20. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I'm guessing hawt aliens or the snoo-snoo planet.
     
  21. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Rapid interstellar travel is the holy grail of spaceflight. If the Alcubierre-White drive works, and NASA seems to think that it will, then it will hand us the stars on a platter.
     
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  22. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    By NASA you mean a couple of scientists at NASA.

    Also, Alcubierre himself thinks it's pretty much impossible. https://twitter.com/malcubierre/status/362011821277839360
     
  23. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Actually you are far more obessessed over it. And Alcubierre's original has been modified to...and this is the phrase you keep having trouble with and skip over...something slightly less implausable. But you'll keep forgetting that.
     
  24. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Hell, I just liked the picture they did. And if it inspires people to study physics or advocate for space exploration, where's the harm?
     
  25. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Agreed. There's a big difference between being a realist and being a defeatist. A prototype interstellar starship of any type is a very long way off. I don't think anyone has any illusions about that, but the potential benefits of warp physics over other advanced propulsion concepts are such that IMHO, the effort is worth it because it may pay huge dividends over the long term.
     
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