Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)

I can transcribe that one and post it in the ARC-Thread if you want

 

Pleasies.

 

I just wanted to point out this from the other thread:

Grand Army
10 Systems Army + additional (3,000,000 +/-)

Its good to see an increase from that ridiculous 1.2 million figure but even then 3 million is no way near enough to fight a galactic war for 3 years, if it was going to be increased it should have been done properly, there's no reason (unless LFL insisted, and then its their fault) for such a miniscule number of clones. Either that figure should have at least a couple more 0s on the end, Im missing something, or the clones really were the minority of the republic military, which would be disapointing anyway. Don't get me wrong, Im really glad of the article, with the clone wars over it seemed likely that we'd go back to endless amounts of post rotj material, so to see authors with a real passion and interest in the era still working on it and filling in the many gaps is great...but three million clones, thats less than most of the major powers in the second world war.

 

here ya go: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=13854243&start=21639720

 

Yeah, as great as this article is, three million is a ridiculously small number. Unless, like you said, clones make up a very small part of the entire military (and little evidence points to this) the number should be in the tens of billions at least.

 

You read the article, didn't you? In the very beginning, 200 droids for each clone trooper, and that even increased!

 

Exactly. It's important to read the other sections of the article to understand exactly how and why that 3 million + clone troopers were able to fight against the droid armies.

You will begin to understand the amazing power of one clone soldier against the Separatist droids.

 

I already did

No way, I guess an ARC would have no problem with a thousand or more Tinnies in one op...

 

Its still noway near enough, unless they deployed a hanful of clones to each planet and hoped they'd be enough to contain tens of thousands of droids.

 

Not only that, but remember the detail about the RCs and other covert ops sabotaging the Separatist Factories. The droids that got produced were sub-par. The Separatists inflated their own numbers considerably.

 

Take Utapau in RotS:

2 battalions of CLones, one of them only as reinforcements! And that against (ten)thousands of droids! I don't know how many Grievous had there, but at least 10,000 I 'spose...

 

I'm sure they deployed their forces more sensibly than that. You don't try for even coverage with any army. "Ten soldiers per square foot", or something.

You deploy and take worlds with sufficiently-sized forces. Key worlds hold other systems in check. There is no need to deploy forces on every single planet.

Take Qiilura, for example. A squad of RCs ostensibly took that planet single-handed. But there was no need for them to traverse the entire globe to do so.

Remember: key personnel in key locations, supported by covert anti-support ops.

 

You're right... that's pretty damn much of tactics (what Seps obviously don't have)...

and don't forget they were part Mandalorians. And we know what Mandos are capable of (New Holstice)

 

Hear what the man said. Strategic targets. You should check out the kill ratios of special forces even in the real world.

 

"Not only that, but remember the detail about the RCs and other covert ops sabotaging the Separatist Factories. The droids that got produced were sub-par. The Separatists inflated their own numbers considerably."

Its not the number of battle droids, its the sheer size of the galaxy. There are hundreds of thousands of Republic planets, and thousands of worlds at least must have been involved, it just doesnt make sense that there were only three million clones, and not only that but it seems unnecesary, its a galaxy that can build Death Stars, theres no reason Kamino couldnt have produced hundreds of millions of clones.

 

Fact.

@Qu_Klaani
What about money? When 3 mio clones are enough for Sidious plans, why not?

 

The GAR did not need to occupy all those worlds. Like we've said before, strategic targets. If you assault and take over Sluis Van, you are within striking range of many systems, including Utapau, Bpfassh, Dagobah, etc.


Clearly, though, Qu Klaani, you do not wish to be convinced of this. So I won't press the issue any further.

 

"@Qu_Klaani
What about money? When 3 mio clones are enough for Sidious plans, why not?"

The galactic economy is utterly epic, a few hundred million clones would be a drop in the ocean. If 3 million clones were considered enough for Sidious' plans that either Sidious is an idiot, or the clones were meant as nothing more than a quick response force to supplement a far larger enlisted military.

 

Ryan -

>>"Katraasii"<<

From MotS? I love you.

 

Can you cite me a source for Kamino's capacity?

Factors you need to consider are:

1. In a war, you're not always fighting on all fronts all the time.

2. Theatres of war shift. Not every planet is involved every day of the war. Think shifting task force.

3. And...it's Star Wars! Chaps, when you can accept that a bunch of aliens can breed humans to order and grow them to maturity in ten years...that a handful of Jedi can take on armies with magic and a fluorescent light fitting...when you don't worry about the total absence of time dilation when ships move light years between worlds...how can you argue about real numbers?


Comrades, I'm the real-life defence specialist, and if I could swallow this fictional premise without too much pain, I don't see why you can't...

This is a fit between real life defence and a science fantasy world. We fit it as best we can between the endstops.

 

Or, you except what people far more knowledgable aobut this than you( Kaaren and Ryan if it must be pointed out to you) tell you. What they wrote down in the GGAR (which I just got today! Once again, from illegal sources that shall remian undisclosed) is canonical fact. Aceept it. And Ryan, let me applaud your avatar ner vod. Or should I say, my tat

 

When Ryan gets his Bacara on, stand from under, as they say in the RN...

 

Karen just pulled an Exellence!

 

Karen just pulled an Exellence! [/quote]

Is that good?

Actually, that's how I talk when I'm not translating into Neutralspeak.

Stand from under means get out of the way - called out when you're working aloft on a ship or throwing a line and those below are in the danger zone.