Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Punk
, Jul 7, 2020.
Your best reply for so many reasons.
Wow... Just five minutes of reading an opinion piece by Billy Bragg, and any confusion over this, for me, has gone. He clearly knows more about many of the signatories of that letter than me, and I'm all the wiser.
Perhaps I should get more sleep and drink less guinness next time I try and wrap my head around something (I hadn't even heard of cancel culture before seeing this thread!); which is why I got hold of completely the wrong end of the stick- though I still think my points were valid, just not much to do with this thread.
Perhaps I was wise in not being even remotely aware of many of the social media debates that cleary sparked this. Billy spared me that by summarising and contextualising. What a gem:
Sorry for the late answer yorick. I get a lot more busier these days and I'm willing to spend less time on the internet.
But to answer your question: I've found this word by being the translation from the french word "nombriliste", which means to be self-centered, egocentric.
Is the word navel-gazing what you were going for?
Aha! Wiktionary does indeed give “navel-gazing” as the translation for the related word “nombrillisme.” Nice catch, Lowbacca. I checked your profile yesterday in order to see if you were a native English speaker, SW Saga Fan. I wasn’t quite sure, since in Quebec it could go either way. I did suspect it was a translation issue, though. Now I can add “nombrillisme” to the other 6 French words I know.
FWIW, “navel-gazing” in English does mean “self-absorbed,” but not really in a grandiose sense. It’s closer to a mindless or morbid self-absorption, like self-examination that provides no insights and is just wasting time. I think you might have wanted a word like “egocentric,” which means something like, “I’m so important, I think the world revolves around me.”
Yup! That might be this one!
I'm not a native English speaker. French is my native language but I still had to study and learn English and use it a lot for my work as well as discussing with my GF.
Most people can still use English in Montreal, but forget it for the rest of the province of Quebec... There can still be some weird debates regarding the use of English in Montreal, like when some native French speaking people complaining about the use of "Bonjour-Hi" by some employees in shops, when they have to serve both French and English speaking persons. And then the debate spirals out of control, and the government has to intervene and say: "No, we are in Quebec, not in the rest of Canada, and we only use French! You have to say "Bonjour" only, not "Hi"!"
This was the most insignificant public debate I've ever witnessed in our societies...
Who knew there was a War On Bonjour?
That would be a great opening line in a book.
I thought it was a war on high. Or hi...
I'm on it! Title of my next book.
The Great Greetings Wars: Volume 1.
I was denied service once in a restaurant in Quebec when I spoke English. They told me to speak French.
I said: but you don't speak French either.
The lunch cancel
Had a similar one in Brugge, got berated for ordering in French - and French was offered on the menu. I switched to English to explain that Dutch isn't taught in South France. She apologized in French...
Yeah but speaking French in Brugge is adding insult to injury, Ban.
Look, when I'm told explicitly on signs and menus that the person I'm going to address speaks French, I speak French first, not English
I don’t get what the alternative is. If, for instance, people don’t want to purchase Rowling’s works anymore because she’s a TERF, shouldn’t they be free to do so? I mean, isn’t the logical alternative the notion that people should be forced to purchase products? Honestly I don’t get it.
It’s all just a publicity stunt for her next novel - The Vagina Demagogues
'Vagina Demagogues." I'm sure there used to be a word for those. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?
Beware that, when fighting TERFs, you yourself do not become a TERF... for when you gaze long into the vagina. The vagina gazes also into you.
Oh ****, now I’m quoting Fanny Nietzsche.
Don’t worry, I’ll see myself out.
The alternative to what? Nothing in the letter was about consumers, it was about the actions being taken by 'institutional leaders'.
I see people keep making up what the letter was about and attacking their made up version of the letter, rather than the letter as it was written.
I was asked if I was from Paris when in Quebec. Wanted to say no, I just learned real French
I suppose it's more fun that way?
They think they're the ones who speak real French
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