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Lit Has the EU explained why credits are useless to Watto in TPM?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sidv88, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Maybe that was the credit limit on the card mentioned earlier here.
     
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  2. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    Come to think of it, Star Wars uses mostly digital currency right? I don't know how it works in real life, but it can't be that hard to get your currency exchanged can it?
     
  3. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    There could be fees. There could be transaction limits. It might even be illegal to do a transaction of that size. The exchange might even be affected by the local demand, rather than a galactic rate.

    Watto says he needs something more real. The problem would seem to be specifically with the Republic dataries. Maybe he’d take them for a different transaction, but it’s not worth the risk on something as expensive as a hyperdrive.

    There are many ways to make sense of it, none of which need to be definitive. The main point is that it isn’t outlandish at all.
     
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  4. Xammer

    Xammer Jedi Master star 3

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    Indeed, but I'd seen the issue a lot of times before.
     
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  5. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    This reminds me how quickly bitcoin caught on. For something that isn't "real", it sure gets a lot of attention.
     
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  6. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Sorry for the double post but I can't find a way to edit my last post now. Considering Watto lost a slave and a lot of money, I wonder, even with the difficulties and potential financial legal issues all listed here, (and in light of his state by AOTC), when all is said and done he regrets not just taking Qui-Gon's 20,000 credits and worrying about the exchange details etc. later.

    I also wonder what would happen if Watto did accept Qui-Gon's line about taking up the deal with the Hutts, when Watto accuses Qui-Gon of cheating. Was Qui-Gon going to follow through with that? Did he have R2 secretly recording every exchange with Watto or have a recorder hidden on him? Even if Qui-Gon had the Hutts put Watto in his place, wouldn't that have risked exposing the Queen's location to the Trade Federation (and thus confirming Panaka's fears of landing on Tatooine?)
     
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  7. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    IIRC, the old Secrets of Tatooine SB by WOTC indicated that "Hutt currency" was a scam where the Hutts had a number of arbitrary currencies where exchange rates changed all the time - and to make it work, insisted that all transactions on Hutt-controlled worlds only use Hutt currency.
     
  8. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In fairness, SW has never focused on economics as an aspect of worldbuilding and its sort of tertiary to SW as a setting.

    So I wouldn’t get to upset at Lucas or Lucasfilm over it.

    If anything the gaps in this regard allow the fans to use their own imagination.

    That fits the Hutts gangster modus operandi but I wonder how they enforced that, especially given they don’t run some sort of Orwellian mass surveillance in their space, the Hutts methods of enforcement strike me as too crude and brutish to do that-at least with anything more than middling success.
     
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  9. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Now that I'm back from vacation, I found the appropriate section from the book:

    "In order to make even more profit, the Hutts have imposed a currency system based on their Hutt trugut, rather than adapting the Republic datary. Although they have plenty of fiscal reasons explaining their decision, the truth is that they offer a miserable exchange rate from credits to truguts, then redeem the credits in some other system that does honor Republic currency.
    Most businesses accept only Hutt money, their owners not being equipped (or in some cases, intelligent enough) to make the conversion. Republic credits can be exchanged for Hutt currency at the customs office. In converting back to credits, the Hutts impose a 25% exchange fee - further making a profit from visitors to Tatooine. Even so, those leaving Tatooine are wise to pay the fee. Hutt currency is worth nothing except on a Hutt-controlled world."
     
  10. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In essence financial gangsterism.

    Fits the Hutts to a tee.

    It makes sense the Hutts would try to limit republic currency use and keep their economy relatively unintegrated with the republic one.
     
  11. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    One of the codex enteries in TOR explains it as him being from a group of Hutt colonies that joined the Republic

    After the Pius Dea Crusades, the Republic stagnated, forced to rebuild alliances Puis Dea had damaged. However, during the Rianitus Period, the Republic began to enjoy prosperity again under a new Supreme Chancellor, Blotus the Hutt.

    Blotus had been the administrator of a network of mining worlds that split from the remnants of the former Hutt Empire. He and his worlds applied for Republic membership, and although tensions between Hutts and the Republic remained, Blotus proved both competent and popular in the Galactic Senate. He was eventually elected Supreme Chancellor by an overwhelming majority, and his position was solidified when his tax breaks for independent traders brought Coruscant into an economic boom and improved trade throughout the Core Worlds.

    Well, ultimatly money has value due in no small part to the fact that peaple say it has value (in part - of course their are other factors; for instance scarcity and an ability to back up paper money with gold or other assests) - at the end of the day a doller bill is just green paper with pictures of a dead person on it, after all, and is really no more valuble or special then a tissue when you think about it.

    When I was a kid we used to use acorn caps as "money" on the school playground. The caps did'nt actually have any value and we all knew that, but we just accepted they did and becuase we did "boom" instant economic system.
     
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