Amph Here's Some Money, Go See A Swap Thing: DCU/Elseworlds Discussion

Didn't Clancy Brown voice Lex Luthor in the Superman animated series?

 

Yes.

The car.

“Chicks dig the car”

 

I really loved him as President Johnson on that one episode of the Crown.

 

Well, according to this season of "The Flash"

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Barry and Iris have met Red Death from Hypertime. This Ryan Wilder was adopted by the Wayne family since Bruce did not exist and became Batwoman after they were killed. She gave herself artificial speed and after killing Iris, tried to hide in the Speed Force, but was ejected into Earth-Prime. My guess is Barry in the film causes a partial merging with Earth-789, due to the Multiverse being damaged from the Crisis.

 

**** off Zack.

 

He's probably gonna do his ZSJL live commentary and tell people to give the new stuff a chance while hawking his new project with Netflix. It'll probably be a "This is the end of the line for me, please move on or watch my new movie pls."

 

All signs point to a convention of some sort, btw.

 

Let’s not pretend he doesn’t know exactly what he stirs up with this framing.

 

Oh, absolutely

 

I wonder what incongruous pop song Superman will soar to?

In other news, Affleck definitely passes on directing any DC (but says he finally nailed it in The Flash at least)

"The Justice League experience, the fact that those stories became somewhat repetitive to me and less interesting. Yeah, I did finally figure out how to play that character [Batman], and I nailed it in The Flash. For the five minutes I’m there, it’s really great. A lot of it’s just tone. You’ve got to figure out, what’s your version of the person? Who is the guy that fits what you can do? I tried to fit myself into a Batman. And by the way, I like a lot of the stuff we did, especially the first one [Batman v Superman].

But not Justice League. What went wrong there?

Justice League … You could teach a seminar on all the reasons why this is how not to do it. Ranging from production to bad decisions to horrible personal tragedy, and just ending with the most monstrous taste in my mouth. The genius, and the silver lining, is that Zack Snyder eventually went to AT&T and was like, “Look, I can get you four hours of content.” And it’s principally just all the slow motion that he shot in black-and-white. And one day of shooting with me and him. He was like, “Do you want to come shoot in my backyard?” I was like, “I think there are unions, Zack. I think we have to make a deal.” But I went and did it. And now [Zack Snyder’s Justice League] is my highest-rated movie on IMDb.

Isn’t that because Zack Snyder’s fans are so intense online?

Say what you want, it is my highest-rated career movie. I’ve never had one that went from nadir to pinnacle. Retroactively, it’s a hit. All of a sudden I was getting congratulated for the bomb I’m in. But I was going to direct a Batman, and [Justice League] made me go, “I’m out. I never want to do any of this again. I’m not suited.” That was the worst experience I’ve ever seen in a business which is full of some ****** experiences. It broke my heart. There was an idea of someone [Joss Whedon] coming in, like, “I’ll rescue you and we’ll do 60 days of shooting and I’ll write a whole thing around what you have. I’ve got the secret.” And it wasn’t the secret. That was hard. And I started to drink too much. I was back at the hotel in London, it was either that or jump out the window. And I just thought, “This isn’t the life I want. My kids aren’t here. I’m miserable.” You want to go to work and find something interesting to hang onto, rather than just wearing a rubber suit, and most of it you’re just standing against the computer screen going, “If this nuclear waste gets loose, we’ll …” That’s fine. I don’t condescend to that or put it down, but I got to a point where I found it creatively not satisfying. Also just, you’re sweaty and exhausted. And I thought, “I don’t want to participate in this in any way. And I don’t want to squander any more of my life, of which I have a limited amount.”

So if DC came to you now and said, “Do you want to direct something?”

I would not direct something for the [James] Gunn DC. Absolutely not. I have nothing against James Gunn. Nice guy, sure he’s going to do a great job. I just wouldn’t want to go in and direct in the way they’re doing that. I’m not interested in that."

And I saw Shazam: Fury of the Gods. I didn't like it as much as the first movie but I freakin' love the first movie so it's not amazing like that, that's okay. Definitely lots of spectacle though! Missing a lot of the smaller character moments that hit so hard in the first film. But not to say it isn't fun or funny, but it's definitely loading up on CGI beasties and lightning.

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Fantastic Gal Gadot cameo at the end. I honestly thought they were going to kill off Billy Batson to give it some dramatic heft but hey, Diana shows up because they do have a God on call. Also Harcourt and Economos! And they got in a great slam on the Justice League/Justice Society and someone actually called Shazam Captain Marvel. Really not a lot of Billy Batson in this film, he's almost a guest star compared to how much he's in the first. So depending if you like Levi's Captain Thundercrack will depend how much you like this movie

Anyway don't recast people, dumb. Okay Batfamily and Superman crew gets recast as they have been for decades but don't turf the cast you got.

 

Blue beetle actually looks good.

….did Kevin Feige make it?

 

DC has a Batman problem, by which I mean they only seem to know how to market Batman. This is not restricted to the films (for once).

 

I seem to enjoy multiverses stories but I think it's pathetic that DC is now doing it, within like a year after Marvel. Cynical cash grab can't appear more cynical.

 

I might go see it. I'm curious enough and it has Keaton.