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Lit Highway robbery of Warhammer 40k

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TK-421 Is vader, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    What can I say, I don't have a drop pod to hand at the moment. A cursory glance at the dreadpod is how I arrived at that particular conclusion and most pictures of drop pods I've seen are at angles where only two prongs are highly distinct.

    The stock photos of drop pods are almost always blue with hazard stripes and GW almost always paints them as such. It's a bit like X-wings being red, or star destroyers being grey.
    Also, gratuitous hazard stripes aren't a star wars thing in general, they are in 40k.
    So he put gribble onto it, to shoddily disguise what it was. Big woop, he'd have been better off just painting it imperial grey. Even the distinct cut outs on it are in a location where there's a different textured panel on 40k drop pods, that has similar diagonal at the ends.
    @Jedi Ben a thrilling discussion as to whether or not a blue, hazard striped, tapered, pronged, pod that falls from the sky with leaf shaped doors is in fact a copy of another blue, hazard striped, tapered, pronged, pod that falls from the sky with leaf shaped doors. I am firmly leaning towards it being so.
     
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  2. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Why? It's not an Imperial drop pod.
     
  3. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    It's not an ultramarine drop pod either, didn't stop them there. We never see where they got it actually, so it very well could be.
     
  4. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    It's used by a colorful band of mercenaries dressed in fairly bright pastels, including Aphra, who is notable for having bright blue tattoos.

    I honestly find your insistence that the color is this smoking gun of theft to be ridiculous. Like, seriously? The pod is blue so it must be stolen! Jeesh.
     
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  5. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    So are people going to cease buying Marvel comics because of this grand infraction?
     
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  6. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    Right. I'm not interested in debating you in circles on this matter. Will we call it quits, or will I ask for a lock or what do you think?
    Like...I get where you're coming from here, but I just disagree with you quite firmly on it.

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  7. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    I am!

    *okay, it's just because I can't afford them at the moment so it doesn't really count but ssssh look at my sacrifice for the greater good of intellectual property!

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  8. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    If you don't want to reply to me, fine. That's your right. But other people have brought up good points that you might want to reply to. Hell, i've made points you still haven't addressed. So, instead of shutting it down because you decided to respond to a point i've already made, perhapde one of those options would be more prudent?
     
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  9. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 4

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    It's also not one artist. You have a writer, who describes the image to various levels of detail depending on the writer and their relationship with the various people in charge of the pictures. You have a penciller making basic lines, an inker making final lines. You have a colorist, or team thereof.

    OP, you started a thread accusing all of those people of conspiring together to commit IP theft. It's been explained to you why it's not IP theft, with photographic evidence, chief of those that it's not the same design. You could've said "Hey, this might be an homage I noticed, what other homages have you caught in recent/classic SW comics?" and we all could have had a good time. "How close does it have to be before it's theft?" Read a book, the Warhammer drop pod is a dumbed down version of Starship Troopers' same vehicle, which is itself a fictionalized expression of work theoretical engineers were doing at the time. If this is theft, that is too, and it's theft all the way down.
     
  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    OK, that's actually pretty rare - putting your money where your mouth is.

    It's also the only thing Marvel might take notice of.... Before axing the book for low sales, if you are very successful in encouraging others to do the same.

    Exactly and, as it's Marvel, probably at high speed. Shortcuts are going to be taken to make the deadline - that's the reality. The expectation around SW comics art has gone skyhigh over the last few years and I'm not convinced it's a good road to take.
     
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  11. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Master star 4

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    I mean, like, if this is your thing, you could have talked about the actual incident of IP theft by marvel comics from Warhammer, in Venom.
     
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  12. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    Ya know what guys? I'm sorry. Yeah you're right, it was dumb of me, it was late at night and we could have all had a nice chat about IP, homages etc.

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  13. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Alright then. Good on you man. Not enough people own up to their mistakes. Myself included sometimes.
     
  14. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    Admitting I'm wrong on the internet... What have I done?

    @Jedi Ben hah no, I'm not putting my money where my mouth is, I just don't have the money to buy them. I'll just use my special ability of scrounging off my rich friend instead!

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  15. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm not aware of this actually. What's the situation?
     
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  16. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Master star 4

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    A couple Tau (I think? I don’t play Warhammer) ships were traced to be background items in an issue of Venom: Spaceknight about four or five years ago. I think there might have been a lawsuit.
     
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  17. Sigismund

    Sigismund Jedi Padawan star 1

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    there was a marvel comic a few years back that just copy pasted some Tau vehicles
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    now that was straight up stealing

    the drop pod while clearly "inspired" is different enough to the 40k one, it's also nothing all that special, artist take inspiration from all kind of sources, it's hard to come up with a new unique designs for everything, especially when on a deadline
     
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  18. TK-421 Is vader

    TK-421 Is vader Jedi Master star 3

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    I looked into the Tau thing...the same artist did it TWICE with Tau both times wow
     
  19. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    That is absolutely blatant, yeah.
     
  20. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Master star 4

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    This is dumb. Sci-Fi/Fantasy has always gotten inspiration from other works, this is nothing new. If it had been the exact same designed drop pod with the Ultramarines symbol on it then maybe there'd be an issue, but it's not.

    edit: I see we've reached this point already. nevermind me
     
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  21. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Though I think in Blizzard's case, it's more them stealing for Warhammer too, down to the Fantasy/40K split.
     
  22. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost star 5

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    Lucas took photon torpedoes and changed the h to an r
     
  23. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That'd be interesting to look into, but its important to note that I don't have any issue with tracing especially if its an in-universe ship, I don't even have problems with Star Wars including material from other universes. Sci-fi tends to be inspired by each other, so I think that goes well. What I do have an issue with though, is taking a fan-made work and tracing it without even notifying the author which is pretty clear that he wasn't notified. Even if he is using the IP, its just for the sake of respect towards the fans, and it overall shows laziness that they just took a random ship off of google and put it in.
     
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  24. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    On the topic of fan-made stuff, didn't both Legacy and TFA use Huttese words that originated in an online fan dictionary?
     
  25. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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