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Amph "Hit it." - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [Paramount+]

Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest , Mar 10, 2022.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Kurtzman definitely has more lead time for prepping shows than the 90's shows did. They were a lot more by-the-skin-of-their-teeth in terms of schedule back then.

    The last time they tried that, it took 3/4ths-to-a-whole-season for Discovery to course-correct. Sometimes it's better to involve new blood.
     
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  2. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Assuming that new blood can write good stories & stuff that fits within the framework & principles of the previous shows.
     
  3. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    Infinite Similarity in Finite Combinations
     
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  4. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Robert April has been cast!



    EDIT- Predictably, some folks are upset about his skin color vs his depiction in one episode of TAS. But I doubt these are people who actually ever cared about TAS's canonicity to begin with and just like any excuse to vent about diversity. And it's not like TAS's canon status hasn't been extremely malleable over the past few decades.

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    I'm just excited to see the character finally come to fruition beyond being an obscure trivia note. Not to mention it organically pays off this Easter egg in DIS S1:

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    EDIT 2- Adrian has a crap ton of credits, even going back to when he was a kid. He plays Phillip Banks on Bel-Air, Basqat / Griff on Smallville, voiced Mace Windu in LEGO Star Wars shows, and has various appearances on shows like BSG, SG-1, Jeremiah, Continuum, Supernatural, MANTIS & Highlander to just name a few.
     
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  5. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    The Enterprise also looks different to the one from TOS

    Which is why I say these shows should be set in the Kelvin timeline, or a new one where they can change these things as they see fit without having any issues regarding continuity
     
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  6. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    ^ Yeah, in my headcanon, SNW is a parallel universe. Makes it easier to accept it for what it is rather than try to force it to conform to something from half a century ago.
     
  7. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Hmm....

    Only available on Paramount Plus.
    Paramount Plus not available in the UK

    .... Bastards.
     
  8. Juliet316

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    The man who created the character seems to be happy:

     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    As a fun trivia footnote- a Star Trek reference book long ago used a photo of Roddenberry to represent April.

    Honestly, it's a lot easier to see the DIS/SNW Enterprise being refitted into the TMP Refit than the TOS Enterprise being refitted into the TMP Refit, in terms of external visual continuity. And, internally, they're more faithful to the TOS bridge design than it may seem at first and, really, more faithful than they had to be.

    However, they have suggested that they wanted to envision this ship potentially becoming the ship of TOS (within reason, of course), minus The Cage, and that she might have another refit in her future to get there. But given that this version of the Enterprise has become so popular and so well-received, I can't really see them wanting them to "throw it away", so to speak, and going back to the OG design.
     
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  10. Juliet316

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    That was Michael Okuda, and he tweeted he was happy with the casting as well.
     
  11. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    John Jackson Miller has a SNW novel due out Feb-Mar 2023. It was going to be Nov 2022 but the world we're in being what it is, it got bumped.
     
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  12. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    didn't they do a different streaming service thing to get non Paramount Plus nations to watch Discovery S4, maybe they'll pull that off
     
  13. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    They stuck it on Pluto TV.

    Pluto TV is utter crap.
     
  14. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    The fact that they cast a human at all is the problem. He should have been an animated actor on the live action set.

    It's like these producers don't even understand canon!!!
     
  15. PymParticles

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    TAS is questionably canon at best, and that's really being generous to a (delightfully) bizarre series with "Kirk is a Jerk" and an inflatable Enterprise. I personally just think it's cool that we get to see the "real" Robert April after all this time.

    I am, however, more than fine accepting Discovery and Strange New Worlds as part of the Prime timeline. Star Trek is nowhere near as consistent in its aesthetic or designs as Star Wars; that kind of visual refreshing is par for the course.
     
  16. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Would you settle for a live actor giving a very animated performance?
     
  17. Juliet316

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    IIRC I think Roddenberry only really considered the animated episode 'Yesteryear' as canon.
     
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  18. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    Roddenberry, that horny old fart, has been dead for 30 years. What he thought really doesn't have to matter that much any more.
     
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  19. Juliet316

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    But Roddenberry's reasoning was because 'Yesteryear' also ties into TOS episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" with the use of The Guardian of Forever time travel device and sheds light on Spock's past.
     
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  20. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    I think all of TAS should be embraced by canon, in all of its weirdness. TAS forever.

    TOS writers like Fontana, Samuel A. Peoples, Stephen Kandel, Paul Schneider, David Gerrold worked on this. TOS director Marc Daniels wrote an episode. Ensign Not-Appearing-In-This-Series wrote one. Larry Niven wrote one, which was really just turning one of his own stories into a Star Trek, but that was fun and now there's a Kzinti in Lower Decks and Riker is talking about them on Picard and that's great. TAS forever.
     
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  21. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Only if he delivers all his dialog while talking behind his hand.
     
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  22. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    That was a pretty good first episode.

    Kind of surprised/not surprised they made such explicit visual references to things going on in the world lately.
     
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  23. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    That was great! Co-written and directed by the guy who wrote Batman and Robin.

    Anyway if Pike circumvents his beep chair destiny (which would be way more dramatically satisfying than letting it happen) that'll solidify Discovery and SNW as alt timeline shows which makes everybody happy! No downside! Everyone wins!

    Anyway, Khan's

    Granddaughter is pretty awesome

    "That'll never stick."
     
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  24. TX-20

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    That was... neat!
     
  25. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    the prime directive, more of a guideline really

    Overall a second-rate amalgam of every Trek cliché ever, a mostly unbearable attempt to meld the original Trek pilot with the incessant lecturing/lesson learning of Next Generation, with a splash of J.J. Abrams in all the wrong places.

    Anson Mount has a smirk and sassy attitude that deserves a pie in the face with almost every line delivery. The whole thing is a master class in how not to do Trek. It's definitely a strange new and mostly bad ripoff of The Orville, just as the trailer promised.

    The gene therapy scene made me think of just how much Ethan Peck resembles his grandfather. He may be the coolest thing about the whole show.
     
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