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Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by HanSolo29 , Dec 13, 2005.

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  1. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    It's hard to believe, but it's been a year already since I've been promoted to mod for the Fan Art forum. It's been a fun year working with all of you and I figured it was time to conduct a survey on how you think the forum is being run and how I am as a mod in general.

    Please share your thoughts on how you think I'm doing so far. What am I doing wrong? What am I doing right? What changes would you like to see or what would you be doing differently? Also, don't feel limited to just me. Look at the Fan Art forum as a whole and express your comments on what could be changed, what works great, what doesn't, etc. Please post your comments in this thread or if you feel uncomfortable expressing them here, send them to me via PM.

    This thread will remain stickied until January 14th. But you are still free to post your comments after that date.

    I look forward to hearing your comments. :)
     
  2. Omnis

    Omnis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You've done well.
     
  3. Giolon05

    Giolon05 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I've only been here maybe a month and as far as I've seen things look good around here! There's no trolling and it seems to be a very mature bunch all around. I like it a lot. I would like to see more constructive feedback being tossed around (as opposed to the none that is all too common I'm finding), but I don't think there's much you can do about that personally.

    All-in-all, I think this is one of the better managed message boards that I visit.
     
  4. Corellian_Rogue

    Corellian_Rogue Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Wonderfully! :)

    When someone has been bagged out, you've swooped in so quickly to remove the post and warn the offender that many people didn't know what was said so that brilliant to me. :D No one needs to be reading terrible, hurtful comments, especially about their art which is so personal and to many a self expression.

    Keep on going HanSolo29 and doing the great job you have been. I know it musn't be easy with all your course work you have been swamped with but here's just to let you know you're doing great!

    [face_hug]
     
  5. SkyWookiee

    SkyWookiee Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You're doing great.
     
  6. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, you haven't banned me yet for making too many nekkid Luke drawings... so I am happy. ;)

    Seriously, I think this forum is well run. You seem to be on top of things. I have seen a few flamers and spammers on various threads and you usually put a stop to it either immediately or within a few hours of it being posted. As Corellian Rogue pointed out, usually most improper comments are deleted before anybody had a chance to see them (which sometimes drives me crazy, I am like, "What was said to tick off HS29 so much?!?" :p )

    Overall, I think you have ensured that the fanart forum is a nice place to visit and post. I never hear anybody saying, "I am scared to go to that forum" -- unlike Lit or The Senate[face_worried] .

    Keep up the good work!=D=

    AG88
     
  7. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I really appreciate the feedback, guys! Please keep it coming. ;)

    Just a note that I wanted to throw out there. I want to be honest with all of you and personally, I feel that I have been lacking in my presence in this forum since school began. I know I haven't been present in a lot of art threads like I used to and I apologize for that. I'm working on trying to solve that problem now that the semester is over with. I'll be around more and I can be more interactive with all of you. Once again, I apologize for the past couple of months while I was busy with school.

    I also want to bring up the subject of the forum as a whole - do you think anything could be run differently? Anything you think should be added, taken away?
     
  8. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    The request thread... that is one thing that I think should be checked on every once in a while to see if the volunteers are still actively participating. There are some people on the list that I know are not taking any more requests, like Wicktone. Then some of them I checked their sample links and the links are bad. Some people I don't recognize and I wonder if they are still posting on TFN.

    I noticed you had mentioned in the Request Thread that previously people used to just post their request directly in that thread before you changed to the current system. I was wondering why the change was made? I would think it wouldn't be too bad to have a direct request thread. And the current thread you have can be called "The Volunteer" thread. So maybe a person looking for an artist could make a general request in the request thread and if that doesn't work, maybe they could check through the volunteers and make direct request to a specific artist.

    Like I said, I am not sure why the system was changed. It could be that making the request thread like I suggested might be a royal pain in the butt.

    Anyway, that is my two cents.

    AG88
     
  9. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Thanks for the comments, AG88! :)

    I was thinking it was time to revise the request thread once again. I have noticed that some of the people on the list have been inactive. I think what I may do is send out PMs to each of the people listed asking them if they still wish to fill requests. If they don't respond in about a week or if they are no longer interested, they will be removed.

    Regarding the change in the request thread - the main reason was that requests just weren't getting filled. They would sit idle for months in the old thread without even a bite. By listing the artists that are interested in filling requests, we figured it would be more efficient in getting them completed. Afterall, we are no bringing the requests directly to the artists instead of having the artists come to the thread. The other reason, I have to admit, is that it was a pain to keep up to date. But that isn't really an issue - just plain laziness.

    Now, I'd be willing to once again reform the request system if you all think it is needed.
     
  10. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes, I can see how that would be a problem. Maybe you can do both. Have a request thread that would let everybody know what art is needed and if there are no takers within a few days the requestor could go to the 'volunteer' thread and make a request to a specific artist.

    The only reason I mentioned this is that there are probably dozens of artists that really don't want to have themselves listed as a volunteer artist for various reasons, but they might be willing to do an art project for someone if the project caught their interest.

    I don't know if it is really needed. I am just throwing stuff out for discussion.

    Another thing, (I am not sure if you have this already posted somewhere), but more than once I have had to PM people and tell them step-by-step how to post pictures. Sometimes it is not enough to tell them "go to photobucket". A year ago if you simply said, "Go to photobucket or imageshack" I wouldn't have a clue as to what you are talking about. There are a lot of people out there that are not overly familiar with computers.

    Maybe there should be a sticky for Frequently Asked Questions. "How do I post my picutures" is probably the most often asked question, closely followed by "Now that I have my link, how do I make a thumbnail picture appear in my post?"

    If this information is already out there, then please disregard my ramblings.

    AG88



     
  11. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes, I can see how that would be a problem. Maybe you can do both. Have a request thread that would let everybody know what art is needed and if there are no takers within a few days the requestor could go to the 'volunteer' thread and make a request to a specific artist.

    The only reason I mentioned this is that there are probably dozens of artists that really don't want to have themselves listed as a volunteer artist for various reasons, but they might be willing to do an art project for someone if the project caught their interest.


    I completely see where you're coming from. The 'volunteer' process has its pros, but then again, we have the problem you pointed out - artists taking on requests they otherwise would never do. I know from experience that can be a real burden. That's where I liked the old way better, but you had to drag people in by their ankles to get them to do something. So, yea...I think this process could work out. Before starting anything new, I want to go through the current list in the request thread and see who is still interested in participating.

    Another thing, (I am not sure if you have this already posted somewhere), but more than once I have had to PM people and tell them step-by-step how to post pictures. Sometimes it is not enough to tell them "go to photobucket". A year ago if you simply said, "Go to photobucket or imageshack" I wouldn't have a clue as to what you are talking about. There are a lot of people out there that are not overly familiar with computers.

    Maybe there should be a sticky for Frequently Asked Questions. "How do I post my picutures" is probably the most often asked question, closely followed by "Now that I have my link, how do I make a thumbnail picture appear in my post?"


    I think that's the most asked question I get over PM. I do have the answer to this posted in the "Welcome thread" but you know how that is with people actually taking the time to read the stickies. Or maybe they just can't find the information among the other stuff listed. I don't really know why it's bypassed, but I think a FAQ thread would be very beneficial. Maybe more people will actually take the time to read the thread if all the answers to their questions will be right there for them.
     
  12. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    ***Looks through the Welcome thread*** [face_blush] Oh yeah, there it is. I think that Imageshack link is wrong. That is Imageshack.com and I think the correct link is http://www.imageshack.us/ . When I went to the Imageshack link provided in the welcome thread the first thing I saw was FREE PORN. :p

    I do have a suggestion. Maybe have a bold title saying HOW TO POST A PICTURE on the top just in case there are people like me who are computer idiots and didn't know what the term image hosting meant.

    Are you now sorry you started this thread. ;)

    AG88

     
  13. DVeditor

    DVeditor Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think you do a great job, HanSolo29. This place always has new artists coming in and the ones that have been here for a loooooong time keep coming back so I'd say you're doing your job. ;) Keep up the good work!
     
  14. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Its only been a year? :p


    You're doing a great job! You've really helped organize the Forum and make it better then it was before!

    Keep it up!
     
  15. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    When I went to the Imageshack link provided in the welcome thread the first thing I saw was FREE PORN. tongue

    Oiy! :eek:

    Thanks for pointing that out! I'm definitely going in there and changing that now. :p

    Anyway, I think changing the heading could help out immensely. I know what you mean by people not understanding what "image hosting" means. I don't think there will be any arguments with me changing that. ;)

    And of course, thanks again everyone for the feedback! :D
     
  16. Lord_Bayleef

    Lord_Bayleef Jedi Youngling

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    havent been here to see, but im sure you've done a great job.
     
  17. Obi-Dawn Kenobi

    Obi-Dawn Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know I haven't been around much lately, but I had to pop in when I saw this thread to say that I think you've done an incredible job with the forum. You've been accessible to the members, open to ideas and vigilant about keeping it organized, clean and friendly. It's obvious you care about this forum, so thanks for all the hard work that I know goes into managing it. :)
     
  18. FalconFan

    FalconFan Jedi Master star 4

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    **begins Ewok-like chanting and dancing**
    [face_dancing][face_dancing]

    Han, I think you've been doing--and continue to do--an outstanding job modding our forum. It has to be quite a handful, with everything else you have on your plate--but we've never felt neglected or overlooked here: you're right on top of flaming, spamming and other "naughties"--as others have noted, the "flames" are usually gone so fast, and appropriate warnings issued, that most of us have no idea what was written! You have, in spite of your protestations to the contrary, been present pretty regularly, visiting and welcoming the new artists, dropping in to comment on work by
    the "veterans" of the forum, and generally keeping things running smoothly. We're so very lucky to have you, and we're all very grateful to you for your efforts and dedication! [:D]

    Re: the request dilemma... It seems to be one of the "more thorny" issues for our forum... It's tough to come up with a system that serves everyone perfectly--regardless of how it's eventually arranged, there will be someone sometime that feels inconvenienced or unsatisfied by it. I think some good suggestions have been made, and will result in a workable solution in time. My hat is off to you, Mme. Moderator, for so persistently pursuing a "workable solution" to the request issue--I doubt I would be as creative, patient or dedicated! And thus, I have again described our erstwile Moderator!

    All Hail Our Faithful Moderator/Manager, HanSolo29!!
    =D==D==D==D=

    FF :p
     
  19. uwishuwereme

    uwishuwereme Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Youre doing an awesome job HanSolo29[face_peace]
     
  20. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    I have another suggestion for the welcome thread. Under the guidelines for the artists I thought maybe we could suggest to the artists that they mention how they are making their images. For example, I hate commenting on somebody?s wonderful drawings and later find out it is a photo manip that has been run though a filter. Or people doing wallpaper from book cover art and letting other people assume it is their own work.

    Now, I know I have done all types of photo manips run through filters, but I always point out what parts of my images are from photos and what is my own creation. I just think it would be great if people got into the habit of letting people know and not assuming that everybody will recognize their art as an original creation or a photo manip.

    AG88
     
  21. Jedi_Commander_Faofa

    Jedi_Commander_Faofa Jedi Master star 4

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    "There's no war here... Unless you've brought it with you."

    And I see no war, so...

    You're doing an excellent job. :D
     
  22. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Not a bad idea. We had an incident over the summer in where an artist was accused of taking photos and running them through a filter and calling them original paintings. A huge debate ensued and we eventually came to a conclusion, but needless to say it didn't end well for the artist. I think this method could prevent something like this from happening again.

    The only problem I have with this policy is it may be too strict. I know it's not a big deal to explain how you went about creating a piece, I do it in my own work, but others may not want to take the time. I would like to keep that option open for them. If they want to explain the process involved - fine. If not, that's fine too.
     
  23. academygrad88

    academygrad88 Jedi Master star 5

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    That sounds fine. Like I said, I thought we should suggest to the artist they do this, not demand. And it doesn't have to be a long explanation. Maybe just say, "this is a photomanip, or this is an original creation." I know I go to great pains to explain because my art is usually a mixture of actual painting, various 3D design programs and photomanips. I am not suggesting that they do a step-by-step explaination.

    Sometimes I look at somebody's art and I am actually not sure if I am looking at an original creation or a filtered photomanip. And I am a bit embarrassed to ask because that can sometimes look confrontational. So usually I say nothing. I think the artists would get more replies if people were more certain at what they are actually commenting on.

    Anyway, I just thought I would throw that suggestion out. You are really doing a great job HanSolo29, sorry if I am being a pain in the butt.

    AG88
     
  24. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh yea, I totally understand where you're coming from. As long as we don't make this as a required thing, I think it'll work out fine. Like I said before, I would just like to keep the option open to those that are fairly secretive about their work and don't wish to share their techniques. But as a suggestion - it could work.

    Yes, I've been in the same situation in the past. I try to guess and leave the topic open so the artist can later fill me in if I made a mistake. But I do agree with you that it can be quite frustrating. And that is a very good point about threads getting more replies. This is definitely something to look into and I believe I will be making some revisions to the welcome thread in the near future. ;)

    No, no, you're not being a pain in the butt. I asked for your honest opinion on changes and my performance. I'm willing to make adjustments and look into policies if it means making the forum better. ;)
     
  25. oldjedinurse

    oldjedinurse Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have seen nothing negative in this forum - and that's saying something! That is a credit to your contribution as mod, HanSolo29! I find this board friendly, helpful, easy to use and well-managed.

    I like the idea of identifying the media used for your work - thanks AG88! That would help to prevent fraudulent pieces. I'm going off to identify mine right now!

    Keep up the great work, HS29!

    oldj
     
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