ST How do you build off the Sequel Trilogy moving forward

I blame TROS.

 

We already have it with High Republic doing an earlier version the holdo thing.

 

I feel the same way, although we disagree on a lot of things.

 

Also feel the same way. I can't imagine why anyone would get invested - they sure as hell showed they don't care, no matter what character you're a fan of. I'm going to pay to have them laugh in my face and tell me that they're subverting my expectations and I should enjoy it?

 

Even knowing that grumpy Luuke will happen, I still want Lucasfilm to find ways to give us more stories of the heroic Luke Skywalker.




Not limiting them to just the OT era.

Instead of jumping into his Academy period, I would want to see more tales about him in the gap between RoTJ and the start of training Ben Solo.

See him training Leia, etc.

The current star wars comics are focused on the ESB - RoTJ gap, but once that is finished, Its likely we will see some adventures of the big 3 following RoTJ.

 

Honestly, I don't care for what happens after TROS. Now, what happens before TPM is more of what I am interest it. Just being honest. The new movies were fun to watch, but their impact doesn't leave me with wanting to know more either after, or before.

 

And Ben was not Judas. So it was Luke+12=13. The unlucky 13. And since Ben did not destroy the temple and did not slaughter the students, maybe there was a mole.

Jesus chose his 12 disciples, and so did Luke. Ben was different; he was trusted to him by Leia, and he was family. The parallel, in his case, is saga-related, and not biblical. Jesus had no nephew-disciple.

 

I don't blame you. I don't think I'd particularly care on a personal level (since I never was too interested in post-ROTJ anyway), but if they had to do something with this era, that's the only way I can see some recovery. And even then, it is too little, too late for lots of people.

 

I have not watched it either. After Rise of Skywalker I could not look at anything else Star Wars. I'm slowly returning again. Still I don't know lol. I honestly have no idea how you build off these Sequel Trilogy. I'm not I even want that.

 

I don’t want them to build off of the ST at all going forward. They stated that TROS was the end of the ST AND the end of the Skywalker Saga, and I think they should stick to that by not making Episode X or continuing with any side stories that include any of the ST characters.

 

I think it say more about some people here who try to turn every topic into the same debate, regardless of what it originally was about...

The opening post was pretty clear in what this was supposed to be about, and what it wasn't there for. Supplementary material to enhance the ST, not "what should future movies be build upon". Didn't stop people from completely ignoring that ten posts in. And guess who was the one who started that?

 

This is from a TFA comic. The forceback. Sep 2017; 2 years after TFA and just 3 months before TLJ.

Luke and the hooded figure, same red background.

 

It’s pretty simple. Rey attempts to build a Jedi order. The new republic attempts to rebuild. Other threats grow over time to challenge old and new heroes.

 

I think it’s important for Lucasfilm to stick to its word (regarding the end of the Skywalker saga), and not build from the ST at all.

 

But what does that even mean? They're going to have to move forward eventually. Unless, they pull an Elder Scrolls and have the next Sequel Trilogy take place hundreds of years later.

 

They're doing a Galaxy of Adventures comic featuring Rey and her men followers which is set post TROS, I wonder if they are testing the waters, so to speak, and if it's a success follow on from that.

 

I honestly don’t see the need to move forward in the timeline. Let the ST be the furthest point in the timeline for a long while.

That said, I do think they will eventually. And I believe jumping far ahead, as you suggest, is the way to go.

 

Comic books are niche. Only most die-hard fans buy them so they are no indication of whether studio should make live action (movies, streaming) with those characters. The only relevant thing is that ST lost 48% of its initial audience in just 4 years and that TROS was the least profitable ST movie with the worst reviews of any SW movie ever. That determines what will happen in the future not niche tie-ins.

 

This point is probably the most misterious about the future of SW and LucasFilm.
I'm not sure if this is a Disney thing, but certainly Lucasfilm seems EXTREMELY UNCONFORTABLE with Force users in general.
The company that developed Jedi Fallen Order for EA said in various reports how Lucasfilm was against a game about Jedi and how they tried to turn the the game about mandaloriaans. The only allowed the to be developed once there were no Jedi, only Force users with no true training or true tried Jedi.
The lack of development of a Jedi Order in the ST and the disallowance of the New Jedi Order series does make the impression that the second Jedi Order with multiple members as it once was in the High Republic is completely out of question.
But nor Disney or Lucasfilm seems sincere about this matter and never makes it clear what is really going on.
One interesting thing about the Mandalorian was the complete ignorance about the Force the majority of the characters showed. Thgink of Cara Dunn, who was a rebel soldier. She should have heard about Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. In the OT the Rebelion members/leaders normally greeted that the Force should be with the other rebel. But whenever Baby Yoda uses The Force around her ( heck, the child even force-choked her) she acts like she has no idea about what was going on.
But in the end i think it's more a sign on how The Force, Force users and Jedi became some sort of "creative taboo" inside Lucasfilm.Specially in the stoylines after ROTJ.
What has been heard through leaks is that Disney has no plan for anything post-ROTS, but they may create a Davi Filoni Cinematic Universe, with stories about the Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Ezra and some others characters that will take place in the first decade after the fall of the Empire.
Kathleen Kennedy "swan song" at Lucasfilm helm seems to be a series of books about the High Republic, something set about 200 years before TPM.
So at this point i don't believe will see anything Jedi centric post Ep.9. At least for a long long while.
And that's bring us back to your point: are there really that many people craving for a Force-less SW story, about spice dealers and bounty-hunters only ?
This really seems a strecht to me.

 

Force-less SW story about spice dealers and bounty hunters only = lesser GOTG. And who needs lesser GOTG if there's real GOTG?

 

I think most stories in book and tv material will probaly build of the ST like the books and games did after the PT was done. the movies will probaly not be build up by them like like they won't be by the PT and hopefully not the OT.

 

I mostly agree that the ST doesn't and shouldn't need to be expanded upon. However, if they do continue it, one of the contributions of TROS was that it wrapped things up quite thoroughly. Palpatine and the Sith are gone (hopefully, please), Kylo is dead and the FO is finished. Luke seems to think his duties are mostly finished too.

The storylines of the saga are over, so a new film could focus exclusively on Rey. Finn would be nice to bring back too, but Rey is the priority imo. It feels like so little of her potential was realized, we got three movies but barely got to know her. Rather than see Luke during his quests after ROTJ, I'd like to see Rey in that role, and I'd like her to be written by a woman. For all the talk about the The Force Is Female, none of the Disney era films feel particularly feminine. Rian Johnson tried to go there in TLJ but it didn't work out imo. I don't want to see her going straight into training new students, I want to see her develop into a Jedi, which didn't really happen in the ST.

 

I think they have a legitimate fear (as I do) of a force user arms race leading to a superheroization of the franchise, where powers and threats grow and grow until the whole thing is completely unmoored and ungrounded. That’s why I think the Mandalorian strikes the perfect balance. It’s grounded, set as it is in the gritty world of bounty hunters and ex-imperials. But bring in a baby force user, and the mysticism that entails, and bring in deep Jedi/ Mando lore and history like the darksaber, and it becomes far more than GOTG, to address @vaderito ’s point.

And I’d argue the opposite anyway. GOTG is fun, but it’s Star Wars derivative. Star Wars operating in the underworld is much more interesting to me. “Greater GOTG” is more like it.

 

Yep. I’d rather they just ignore it, and focus on the prequel, classic and post ROTJ eras. Or anything way back in the past. Just nothing after TROS.

 

They should build from it with books, comics, and tv shows. No more movies about this time period though.