How does Obi-wan know Padme's Pregnant?

Maybe it was the whole being nine months pregnant that gave her away....
or
The fact that maybe he could sense the force in her belly

 

hehe, that's what I was going to say

 

In the novel Padme wraps her robe a her, forgetting or not caring that Obi-Wan was there. Obi-Wan also knew of the love Ani and Padme shared and he did not want to his old student hurt if Obi-Wan ratted him out to Yoda and co. No Obi-Wan did not know they were married until he questions Padme about Ani being her childs father.

 

Obi-Wan took a wild Guess.

 

Gee, could be her BIG pregnant belly right in in front of his face??.........

 

Maybe he over hears her talking about how she hasnt had a period in some time, and the lack of feminine products he noticed while using the restroom.

 

it sorta says that in the novel (i think) if u havent read it
but good point Sids

 

Just as Obi-Wan is going to leave, Padme reveals her pregnancy, then Obi-Wan turns around and then he says "Anakin is the father, isn't he"? From the start, I already knew precisely (also I'm sure that we all knew really) who Padme was pregnant with (Luke and Leia).

 

There's always a chance that he could sense her pregnancy trough the Force. Especially since the children are Force sensitive as well.

 

That's more of an eu thing, since Leia could sense that she was going to have twins. In ROTS, Obi-wan doesn't sense the feteus (sp), especially given that he's surprised at the revelation of twins.

Bail: "Twins?"

Obi-wan: "Babies!"

 

The better question is how does Sidious NOT know??? Aside from being able to sense the babies within Padme, couldn't he just read Anakin's mind? The guy knows what Anakin is dreaming about! Shouldn't he be able to read the most pressing thing in Ani's head??? When a young guy gets a girl pregnant does it not completely dominate his thoughts???

The PT set Sidious' psychic powers on a super-high level. It makes no sense that he would not know of the pregnancy.

 

He knows about the pregnancy. He knows about Anakin's visions. That's why he says that he can help him. He's kept close tabs on the Skywalkers in the three years since Geonosis. He had a spy in the Naboo clergy and Captain Panaka ratted them out to Palpatine. He assumes, like Vader, that when Padme died so did her unborn child. Anakin did not know there were twins either. Padme told the medicial droids that she didn't want to know the sex, much less if there was more than one. Hence she and Anakin both speak of one child, not two. And when Bail brings her body to her family, she is made to appear as if she is still pregnant. The Sith do not perform an autopsy and the Naberries never perform one either. The Jedi and Bail took care to make sure that Polis Massa would not make public the record of the birth of the twins, before leaving there.

 

How do you know Sidious didn't know?

 

Uhhh?is it ever stated in the film that he knows? The only statement on this is made in the OT, was that IF the emperor ever knew that Anakin had kids, he would have them killed since they would be a threat to him. Thus the kids were hidden. So the clear implication is that he does NOT know.

And with all his off the chart. Force powers he should.

 

Sidious knew of the pregnancy because he sensed it in Anakin's thoughts. So he was well aware of them. Just cause he doesn't talk about it, doesn't mean that he didn't know. If he knew what the visions were about, then he also knew what Anakin knew. That Anakin forsaw her dying during childbirth. Ergo, he senses Anakin's thoughts and brings it up to him.

 

Obiwan knew for a couple of reasons:
1) In the novel, it includes a conversation with obiwan and padme, in her apartment. He comes to talk to her about Anakin and he tells her he knows about the 2 of them, but he doesn't know how deep it is. I believe Obiwan thinks it is a purely sexual relationship.
2) However when he visits Padme at her apartment again, and sees that she is pregnant, he puts 2 and 2 together. He now understands that they were carrying on a secret love relationship.

I read somewhere that it is not wrong for a Jedi (for lack of a better term) to have "one night stands" and that Kenobi himself had done that numerous times.

Sinister, I always thought Palps somehow sent those visions to Anakin. The visions show Padme dying because he turned into a sith lord. But he never would have become a sith lord if he had never seen the visions. The force would always tell you what is going to happen, that's why I always thought it was Palps that sent him the visions.

 

The Force does not always indicate what the future will bring, since the future is not yet written. Yoda says as much in ESB. The visions a Jedi has show just one possible future. One of the most damning troubles Force-users are always having to face in the saga is the fact that they are given complete free will.

 

(double post)

 

Yes, it seems that logic would suggest that if Palpatine knew Anakin was having a vision of Padme dying, that he knew she was also dying in childbirth, hence he knows she's pregnant. He then believes she dies with the child. However as later EU suggests, there was indeed some investigation into Polis Massa which suggests some suspicion. It just seems like Sidious has to know, somehow he knows of Anakin supposedly "killing" Padme. A purposeful exaggeration of the truth, I have no doubt, to make Vader angry at himself and the world. But yet he must know that Anakin choked her, and he wouldn't have gotten that info from Obi-Wan, it had to be Anakin's mind.

But as for Obi-Wan knowing about the pregnancy I think he finally put two and two together. He already knew of their relationship, just not the seriousness of it. So when Padme still tries to protect Anakin after Obi-Wan has just told her what he's done, he realizes that she must be trying to protect something bigger than Anakin and that she physically is looking a bit pregnant, since she doesn't make as much effort to hide it. His mind would simultaneously process all this information including all the pregnancy outfits she's been wearing and all the clues that suggested they were in more than just a friends with benefits relationship. Obi-Wan probably felt quite dumb after it, and doesn't press her hard for information, even though she clearly knows where he is. Instead, he knows she'll go to him and stows away on her ship. I'm sure it was painful for him to do, but it was really the only way of getting to Anakin, and finding out what the hell is going on.

 

Lucas did say it was possible for Jedi to go out and have sexual relations, but that they don't become attached to that person. Obi-wan did have a relationship with Siri Tachi, which was explored in "Secrets Of The Jedi", but it never got to the point where Obi-wan would do what Anakin did. Came close, but he couldn't bring himself to go that far. The intimate relations of most Jedi in the eu, during this era, are very minimal. Neeja Halcyon & Quinlan Vos have marriages that the Council would not approve of. Tharica Cho-Leem said that she had children, but was still favored by the Council. Though she had taken a leave from the Order when she did so. Ki-Adi-Mundi was allowed to be married, since his race requires that all males mate with the females. He also proved that he was able to avoid being attached. Vima Da-Boda did have a family, but I think it was hidden from the Council.

 

Obiwan would have to be a pretty poor Jedi to NOT have known Padme was pregnant.

 

I concur...

 

I think you guys should stop making fun of the original poster. The book obviously wanted to explain how he knew better than just by having him look at her. If we are going to use the "Obi wan has eyes..." comment than alot of other people should have known she was pregnant because some of those outfits didnt hide very well. For example that beautiful green hooded outfit couldnt hide that her shape was changing and anyone around her would have had to notice it. Maybe people knew she was pregnant but they just didnt know who the father was.

 

Ok,This thread is hilarious and I am having a riot reading it...

Personally, I think Obi had to have known everything and was just too polite to say anything, because it's not really his business.. I mean just because I am pretty damn sure they're pregnant, doesn't mean I walk up and say "hey your pregnant!" Simply b/c there is that .01% chance you are wrong.

Honestly what kind of Jedi would he be if he didn't freakin' know? I mean Ob1 and Anakin spend how much time together and he couldn't figure out who is buddy/padawan was bunking with? (Book reference: Obi wan wacthed as Anakin pretended not to be looking for that special someone in the crowd.)


I mean good gravy! 2hrs with my friends can tell you more about their boyfriends than a single girl ever needed to know. I have also heard rumours that humale males tend to brag about their conquest as well.... As for why he didn't say anything, when your friends tell you stuff about their sex life, are you going to pass it on, or lay in the fetal position trying to get the images out of your mind?

So my theory..... he was just being polite.

 

Actually, it is his business. Since he was Anakin's Master during this period and thus responsible for his Padawan's actions. He just didn't turn him in as he thought it would help him.