Discussion in 'Community' started by Rogue1-and-a-half, Sep 15, 2016.
Oh Diggy, I would never miss one of your posts.
This reminds me and it's semi-related, but...have any of you comic book enthusiasts read or heard of Crossed? I've just started getting into graphic novels, and that was on a list of must-reads. I read the general plot synopsis and...holy **** wtf.
Yes. Got it. Found it disgusting. Burned it.
Moral dilemmas aren't for everyone.
ive read all the Crossed stuff, actually
the original limited series is excellent
some of the Badlands arcs are excellent, but a lot of Badlands' 100 issue run is filler/repetative
the special issues/one-shots tend to be pretty good
Crossed Family Values limited series was forgettable
Crossed Psychopath limited series was quite good
Crossed Wish You Were Here... i liked it as a serialized experience when it was being released online a few pages at a time, but i bet it wouldn't hold up as a straight-through read. probably have pacing problems
Crossed 100+'s original arc by alan moore was excellent and SO promising, but once he handed off writing duties it kind of got mired. i think its been canceled
the publisher (avatar) seems to be winding down generally in terms of their output, and badlands ended at issue 100 and 100+ i think has been canceled (there's maybe one issue or so that i havent read yet) so this is either a good or a bad time to be taking an interest in Crossed, depending on your point of view. its basically zombie apocalypse fiction but the zombies are more terrifying
Okay, so, 1. please take my comment regarding lists into consideration and 2. there are better books by Garth Ennis you could read first anyway (Hitman, Preacher, his runs on Hellblazer and Punisher). Crossed is mediocrity made infamous by some extreme scenes, the Cannibal Ferox of zombie comics.
preacher is sort of better when its not being boring af
cant comment on the others
I mean at no point would I consider Garth Ennis "essential reading" or whatever but that's all stuff I enjoyed more than Crossed, obviously we've got some different opinions on that series though.
we can agree about garth ennis not qualifying as essential in any sense. its popcorn bull****
my favorite things hes done are actually two stand-alone miniseries. one was Caliban, which was in the Event Horizon/Sphere "crew of people trapped in a small space with an inscrutable alien horror" subgenre and did it better than most. the other was Rover, Red, Charlie, which was about dogs trying to survive in a zombie/crossed-type apocalypse environment and after all the humans had been wiped out. all of the feelssssss
A book should always make you feel *something*. Joy, rage, enlightenment or hate....it's done it's job.
I would buy a book just to have someone do this!
Burn the book, toast a marshmallow over the fire, and make yourself a s'more; that way you'll get a little joy out of it.
Mmmm, holocaust s'mores.
Rogue1-and-a-half Not only was this book required reading as part (i.e.: myself & my brother) of our high school magnet program, my brother loves this book so much that within the past year, he got a painted bird (in color to boot) tattoo.
As for me, I share your hatred for it. So over-the-top, with a rather obvious message that it treats as a profound discovery (People/society like to single out others as bad, and thus treat them horribly! Wow).
I just want to say thank you for having this moral conflict, because I feel the same way about books. No book, no matter how Twilight it might be, is worth burning. I do not like the image that conjures up, or the part of our neanderthal brains that desires the destruction of art and/or knowledge. And yet, I realize that some things are just terribly depraved. Maybe scribble a warning inside the front cover before you donate it?
I am totally fine with creating art out of unwanted books.....as a person who has spent 18 years moving remainders around that no one wants to buy. Fun fact: I remember staring at a stack of the first book in the Dexter series for 3 years. Was selling for like, $100 bucks after the show became the rage.
Just destroy the book. Ridding yourself of your own possessions is not censorship. The latter is an attempt to exert control over others. You are merely expunging unworthy things from the world.
next thing you know you'll be sleeping on the floor creating movies on the ceiling
Rogue, don't keep the book. If it makes you unhappy to have it, get rid of it.
If you don't want to give it to someone else, just throw it out. Don't burn it or make some big scene that will feel like censorship; just throw it away. It's a possession that you don't want and has no value to you. You're not censoring the art; the art is still out there. Just get rid of it the way you would if the binding disintegrated or you spilled chocolate milk all over it. Put it in the trash, bag it up, and take it out. It will go into a landfill and slowly disintegrate and no one will ever actually see it again.
Making this book required reading for anything other than an enhanced interrogation is unbelievably stupid. And I guess your brother is trying to appropriate the symbol of the powerless and turn it into a badge of honor. That's . . . about as positive a reaction as anyone could possibly have to this book.
But honestly I think various people here have talked me around to the realization that destroying my one single copy of something isn't censorship. That makes sense to me now. I think I'll burn it. Because that will be more fun than shredding it.
White Elephant it.
On the day of your birth, did your father consider your mother's womb the world? Because that last sentence is so much better than "breathe, just breathe!"
What did you decide? The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
I did end up deciding to burn it symbolically. But I still haven't.