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Books Imperial Handbook - A Commander's Guide

Discussion in 'Literature' started by King of Alsakan, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I thought that small moon looked suspicious.

    Just like the Empire to develop an Existential Death Star.
     
  2. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    People, you are missing the most essential piece of information in that Preview! The Tion Cluster is back! :D
     
  3. Onderon1

    Onderon1 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Excellent. :D Desevro and its' related worlds are far too much fun to be put out to pasture. Here's hoping Xim's backstory is as resilient.

    (Of course, this doesn't mean we should expect the details to remain the same. Exhibit A: Whether TCW Raxus and Raxus Prime were at all connected.)
     
  4. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    Rendilli beat you to it.
     
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  5. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    RE: Mon Cal cruisers at Turkana, don't forget that prior to the liberation of Dac in 1 BBY, "handful of exploration cruisers" including the cruiser Independence (as noted in the EGTW) escaped and joined the Alliance. Then Commander Ackbar led the small battle line of exiled Mon Cal cruisers (the retcon is that he was just "admiral" in the Mon Cal resistance at this point) under the overall command of Jan Dodonna, who was de-facto Rebel supreme commander, even though there was no formal position yet. Presumably after the battle of Turkana (also placed 1 BBY), Ackbar resigns his Rebel commission and returns to Dac to help assemble their main fleet, while still being an "unofficial" Rebel commander overseeing Project Shantipole. This is really the messiest part of Ackbar's timeline, as he is both "resigned" and "active" in the Rebellion at the same time.

    Yeah, our old EU was a bit of a headache at times. :p

    Anyways, in 1 ABY, Dac formally joins the Alliance, Ackbar returns with a full fleet of MC80's, and Mon Mothma appoints him as Admiral of the Alliance Fleet. So, prior to 1 ABY, any larger concentration of Rebel Mon Cal cruisers were from that initial group of exploration cruisers that escaped Dac. Note these cruisers were more large carriers than combat capital ships at this point. Presumably cruisers like the Independence eventually returned to Dac for a proper refit, making her into a true Home One-type MC80 cruiser.

    My personal theory as to why Ackbar switched his flag in 1 ABY from the Independence to Home One is that the Indy was sent to Dac for retrofit and Home One was one of the first of her type to being fully converted into a combat capital ship.

    So Turkana works, the time line works, and Ackbar works. At least as far as LEU is concerned. At least we know that Dac was still occupied in the new canon (per a recent Insider short story), so maybe this time around it will be a bit cleaner. Honestly, I have no issue if the NEU decides that Dac was a formal Alliance founder, on par with Corellia, Alderaan, and Chandrila.

    For what it is worth, even the Maker himself (Uncle George) almost added Mon Cal & Sullustan Rebel officers & pilots to ANH when he was doing the Special Edition, in an effort to make the Alliance look more diverse from the get go. To be honest, I like the idea of the Alliance being formed by multiple worlds & species from the get go, as opposed to the LEU notion of the Alliance essentially being a human thing until other aliens decided to join up.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  6. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Aww, of all the things he coulda changed in the Special Edition, that'd have been far better than so many of the trivial changes.
     
  7. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Me too. I always figured that Ackbar was one of the founders of the Rebellion. Also, if an anti-alien regime comes into power and I'm an alien, I know where I'm headed.
     
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't mind ANH so much -- it's Yavin that really sells the idea of the Rebellion as an actual thing that might work. It'd probably have been more productive to have some alien extras running around on Hoth, though.

    That is, provided Mon Calamari don't turn into squidcicles :p
     
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  9. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Coming Soon: Empire Strikes Back: The Disney Edition, now with added musical numbers, and frozen squidcicles.
     
  10. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    I have a different theory. We know Independence was Ackbar's personal ship early on, and better suited for him per Truce at Bakura, so why transfer to a ship he does not know as well and has not worked with as long? The key is in the name. Home One was the successor to Rebel One, the ship that was the mobile headquarters for the Rebel high command. Rebel One was destroyed earlier, so Home One replaced it, and probably renamed in the process. Ackbar would have led the battle from Independence, but Mon Mothma and Alliance High Command decided to join the battle personally, so Ackbar transferred the flag to their ship for the battle, and tasked Independence as being a communications ship. Then when Endor was a major success, the fame of using Home One for that battle made Ackbar transfer his flag to her permanently, while Alliance High Command stopped travelling with the fleet for a while as they set up the Alliance of Free Planets.

    Musical numbers? Been done.

     
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  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah, per the old EGtVV it was called the "Headquarters frigate" -- but there's no reason Ackbar needed to use it all the time, just major symbolic battles where he was functioning in his role as Admiral of the Fleet: Endor, Coruscant etc.

    So there's also a third measure where both of you are right. :p
     
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  12. seeker_two

    seeker_two Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Aren't Sullustans adapted to the cold? Maybe they'd last longer than the tauntauns ....

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  13. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Well Sullust has always been described as a Volcanic world and they live in warrens, so cold is about the only thing they likely are not used to. Extreme heat, cave-ins, navigating complex tunnels, properly easy, cold less so.
     
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  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The cold never bothered them anyway.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  15. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    Now I'm picturing Olgaf as a snow-Jawa
     
  16. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Elsa's ice palace rather reminded me of the Imperial Palace, actually.


    (P.S. I imagine the art is all done by now but I'll still hope and hope that we get a Palace illustration in this book. It's long been an EU oversight.)


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
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  17. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It is impossible to catch the grandeur of HIM's living place on paper. ;)
     
  18. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    They managed to fit it on the damned paperback of Tyrant's Test, they can fit it on a premium-format book :p

    Sadly the giant glossy McQuarrie Palace in Behind the Myth is probably going to be the best we ever get. :(


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  19. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    *coughs*

    [​IMG]

    (I know, I know, I should die a horrible, horrible death.)
     
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  20. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My gut feeling is that if Rebels ever gets around to showing the Imperial Palace, they'll use the McQuarrie version. Dave Filoni seems to love using all sorts of McQuarrie's concepts.
     
  21. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Yup, that's my feeling too. Heck, he even used two McQuarrie sketches to show Monument Plaza in TCW and that show didn't even have a McQuarrie theme.

    So there's a good chance that we'll see the Palace in Rebels if the show ever gets to Imperial Center.


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  22. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    OK I just saw that this is a thing...and as an Empire supporter, ME WANT.

    Sadly I can't get the deluxe edition so any guesses or confirmations when just the book by itself will come out? How many of these kinds of books are out so far? So far I have Jedi Path and Book of Sith. Any others that have been released since then?
     
  23. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    The Bounty Hunter code is the only other one. I actually haven't read that one yet though.
     
  24. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    OK, so I'm not that far off...but is the Bounty Hunter Code available by itself yet? Everywhere I look it just seems to be the deluxe edition, and as much as I want those for the goodies inside of them, I can only afford just the books.
     
  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I got mine from Waterstones a couple of weeks ago- it was the single book version. It's definitely out, even if not many shops stock it yet.