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Indy 5 Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny All Aboard the Hype Train to June 2023!

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by choccy, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rumours that they're filming around Loch Lomond in Scotland.
     
  2. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    Indiana Jones and the Blurry Nessie Sighting

    Shut up I know Loch Lomond isn't Loch Ness. [face_laugh]
     
  3. Leoluca Randisi

    Leoluca Randisi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I love that they are filming in Scotland My favorite ASMRtist is Scottish Murmurs,

    Scottish Murmurs and ASMR got me through the tough year that was 2020 with my anxieties and all and all the crazy things happening in the world. I told Scottish Murmur/Lauren and all my UK friends about Indy 5 filming in England and Scotland and if you want to be an extra in a film look out for casting calls!

    I believe Paramount still owns a percentage of the Indy Franchise so we probably still get the Paramount Logo and Lucasfilm Logo at the beginning but in the End of the credits at the end of the film it will say Distributed by The Walt Disney Studios!

    ok so I looked It up Paramount owns Distribution Rights for the first 4 films but any future film like Indy 5 or starting with Indy 5 Paramount just owns Financial Participation for any future Disney film or TV project.

    Walt Disney Studios owns the distribution and marketing rights to future Indiana Jones films since 2013, with Paramount retaining the distribution rights to the first four films and receiving "financial participation" from any additional films.
    Film(s): Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981); Indiana ...
    Soundtrack(s): Raiders of the Lost Ark; Indiana ...
    Owned by: Lucasfilm Ltd. (The Walt Disney Co...
    Theme park attractions: Indiana Jones Advent...

    Indiana Jones - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Indiana_Jones

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  4. themoth

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    Thanks for the coverage, everyone. I have a good feeling about this movie.
     
  5. Leoluca Randisi

    Leoluca Randisi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I have a good feeling about this film too! Just look at Mangold's Track record, Copland, 3:10 To Yuma, Walk The Line, The Wolverine, Logan and Ford vs Ferrari!
     
  6. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    He also did Girl Interrupted
     
  7. paradigmes

    paradigmes Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don't actually know what is the story, but I am imagining and I find the idea of secret Nazi trains on the misty hills in the middle of the night going to Nazi castles very thrilling.
     
  8. themoth

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    I really like the flashbacks idea. They can give fans of the younger, more physical incarnation of the character what they want, and it’s in the spirit of Last The Crusade’s introduction. It can give a different type of atmosphere to what the older incarnation is doing, even if those flashbacks are minimal. Seems like the best of both worlds to me, like a celebration of the brand. Which is perfect for a final film.
     
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  9. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see a lengthy flashback, 20 minutes or so.
     
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  10. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The new Ultimate Guide to Indiana Jones is surprisingly candid about why Spielberg isn’t directing. He quit because he didn’t like the story and had creative differences with Disney.
     
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  11. christophero30

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    A bit surprising as him and Kennedy go way back. He probably didn't want to do Nazis again.
     
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  12. AndyLGR

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    It can’t be any worse than KOTCS. Can it?
     
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  13. Alexrd

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    As expected. Not surprised at all about this.
     
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  14. PymParticles

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    Then why has he been working directly with Mangold? Why is he still heavily involved, based off a few people’s accounts, as a producer? That sounds like pure conjecture.
     
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  15. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Could just be PR fluff.
     
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  16. PymParticles

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    It could also be that the unofficial, commemorative Ultimate Guide is wrong. Creative disputes haven’t been reported by a single reputable outlet in the year plus since Spielberg departed.
     
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  17. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    It probably is pure conjecture.

    Unless things have changed, Disney holds no leverage on any of this. Spielberg needs to give his consent or no new Indy movie is happening, it's as simple as that. Disney may have bought the rights to distribute and market Indiana Jones, but I'm pretty sure that the rights to make sequels lay with Lucas and Spielberg. Taking over Lucasfilm may have given them one part of that, but it definately didn't grant them Spielberg's part.
     
  18. Serpico Jones

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    Ali Arikan, film critic for Rogerebert.com, has also tweeted recently that the overwhelming rumor going around Hollywood is that Spielberg quit the project due to creative battles with Disney.
     
  19. bstnsx704

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    If he quit in the capacity that magazine is painting it as, then it would be pretty odd for him to still be sticking on as a pretty involved producer, and Mangold has spoken highly of working with him on Twitter. It seems more likely to me, based on the information we've seen and what we've known dating back to KotCS, that Spielberg's heart just isn't totally into directing these anymore. He saw himself as being done with Indy after TLC, he was the last holdout on KotCS (and even mentioned the prospect of handing that one to a younger director in the KotCS bonus features) but did it mostly as a favor to Lucas and Ford, and without Lucas talking him into this one, it seems like it probably struck him as the "right time" to pass the torch to someone new while still letting Ford go do his thing and have some fun in the role one last time.

    I'd be curious to see the actual quote in this magazine... and more importantly, to see the source it attributes the quote to (if any).
     
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  20. PymParticles

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    Did you read his tweet? “I harbor doubts about the veracity of it.”


    Another critic responds to him right below with this:
     
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  21. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just because he has some doubt doesn’t mean it isn’t true. This is the same company that told George Lucas to take a hike.
     
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  22. bstnsx704

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    Lucas sold them pre-existing outlines, but he was never attached to any projects. He washed his hands of it all with the sale. I wouldn't exactly call that "telling him to take a hike."

    Spielberg is literally attached to this film. Even after stepping down as a director.

    I have my fair share of problems with modern day-Lucasfilm and Disney, but this just reads as another baseless conspiracy theory to me.
     
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  23. Serpico Jones

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    He was developing episode seven before the sale and was disgusted to the point that he dismissed Disney as white slavers. He also admitted Disney weren’t enthusiastic about him being involved creatively.
     
  24. PymParticles

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    So you’re fully willing to believe this off secondhand accounts of a rumor, which the person sharing doubts and a colleague denies the truth of, based off a single quote from a commemorative magazine you got from the checkout aisle of the grocery store. This is enough for you to treat Spielberg’s active and ongoing involvement with the film, up to and including direct communication with the replacement director Spielberg himself seems to have played a hand in selecting. Entirely because you’re still salty Lucas’ treatments weren’t used.

    okay.
     
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  25. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This movie was stuck in development hell for five years. Do I think Spielberg dropped out because he and Disney couldn’t agree on a script? Yes I do. Do I believe Spielberg is involved with this movie in any way? No, I don’t. Do I believe Disney gave him a contractually obligated token producer credit like they did with JJ Abrams on TLJ? Yes, I do.