CT Internal Conflict In Palpatine?

He's a great lover of peace. He just wants to end those horrific and bloody Star Wars.

 

Sidious needed more motive rants. It isn't too difficult to read between the lines (and his goals are spelled out in supplementary materials) but it would have been swell to hear him bloviate about immortality and his superiority to the meager peons he's destined to rule over.

 

That would have made him an even worse mustache-twirler than he already was.

 

When he's chillin' who does he hang out with that's what I want to know . Those advisors don't look much fun.

 

That's the point.

 

Good guy Palpatine. Gives Luke the better seat.

 

On the other hand, he was hogging the throne and refused to let Luke sit down there. So clearly he's evil.

 

He had initial disappointment at Luke's decision, but had no remorse in killing him. soon after. He tested Vader numerous times before in life and death challenges, and if the Rebels failed in their Endor attack, Vader and Palpatine could've continued their working relationship as normal. They did so in the past.

 

There weren't even any snacks . At least Vader put on some dinner for his guests (I'd love to see that scene)

 

I'm sure his stomach acted up at times, at least.

 

he probably had to get up twice a night . So I kinda feel for him. y'know , old guys get grumpy.

 

"You can sleep 8 hours non-stop? Impressive. Most impressive."

 

I think telling Luke "Now young Skywalker you will die" was him really trying to comfort Luke that it will all be over soon. Really a generous way to let someone know you're gonna kill them.

Even the smile after was definitely an intended "I'm really helping this kid, today" smile. I think Lucas would agree.

 

I can't help thinking that this war was all the fault of his dentist .

 

"Hm. Should I annihilate Endor now, or later? There are rebels there whose fiery demise would suit my purposes fine, but fear for their lives might also break this youthful fool. Choices, choices."

 

If nothing else, he seems like a very understanding guy. He flat out tells Luke, "I can feel your anger, let your hate flow through you" which is really just another way of saying, "I understand that you're upset, and really, you have every right to be." He's being the bigger man at that moment, admitting that his actions must have been upsetting to Luke. It takes a level of humility to admit that. Most people in his position would have been like, "What are you talking about?? I didn't do anything! I don't know why you're so upset!" But no, Palps is understanding, and perhaps even something of an empath. Kudos to him. And he even goes so far as to tell Luke to strike him down. He's so ashamed of himself for upsetting Luke, he wants to die.

 

Yeah he was just misunderstood... I'm sure he was a really nice person underneath it all...

 

Unless he was just born psychopathic, then presumably he once had an innocent soul before falling to evil. Vader was irredeemable to everyone except Luke. Obi-Wan and Ashoka both could not reach him. Had Vader or Palpatine killed Luke, then Vader would have been irredeemable. I personally am not a fan of the “Palpatine was just always evil a irredeemable” stance. I’d rather the character be more nuanced like Anakin. That he was someone that fell, but that unlike Vader, the people that could have reached him and saved his soul either didn’t try or died before they could, making him irredeemable by the time he became Emperor.

Having said all of that. I wouldn’t be opposed to them doing a backstory on the character that was more humanizing and nuanced, but by the time of RotJ (or even TPM) his empathy was completely gone.


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“For nothing is evil in the beginning. Even Sauron was not so.”

 

Once he found his cause, there was no looking back. It stuck to him like cement.

 

I tend not to believe that anyone is 'irredeemable', but Palpatine was far into the black as it gets.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing some content exploring Palp's time as Emperor . we didn't see that much in the movies.

 

I think the difference is believing in a philosophy. From Palpatine's point of view, the Jedi are evil and the Sith is good. He genuinely believes that. While Anakin also said ''From my point of view the Jedi are evil!'' I don't think Anakin truly and fully believed in that, maybe in that moment he tried to believe that, but deep down, he probably didn't fully believe it.

But for Sidious, and for the rest of the Rule of Two Sith Lords, it's just a way for them to look into the Force and to Star Wars universe. As Palpatine said;

''If one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader you must embrace a larger view of the Force.''

I think Palpatine truly believes in it.

So my point is that, it's a matter of philosophy for Palpatine and for other Sith lords, that they must use all the Force powers to understand the great mystery and for becoming a wise and a complete leader. He obviously also believes in monarchy and imperialism, and he also know the fact that the Sith ruled the Star Wars galaxy for many thousands of years from many different worlds and from many different organizations, but old Sith before Rule of Two never truly ruled the entire galaxy, because they were not united, with Rule of Two, the Sith finally achieved its ultimate goal in the Clone Wars, and they managed to rule almost entire galaxy with one big Sith Empire.

Perhaps, Palpatine might be less violent and be less killing machine while doing what he believes is right, I don't think the comparison with him to a mindless serial killer with no purpose would be the right comparison, Palpatine had a purpose and a philosophy, but while ruling the entire galaxy he might be an extremist and turn into a serial killer from time to time, but there's also a fact that he had many followers and I don't think he killed the people who followed him just because he wanted or he thought it was fun.

Not only Palpatine, also Maul and the other Rule of Two Sith Lords who lived before them believes in this specific philosophy, which kind of makes it like a culture or like a religion for them.

Of course everyone can be turned to the light side, just like everyone can be turned to the dark side, I don't think there is %100 light side or %100 dark side, because there can't be light without dark and dark without light, it's balanced, they need to exist together.

 

I think Palpatine doesn't believe in suppressing emotions like anger and violence , he believes there's a vitality to them.