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  1. mike_zimbouski

    mike_zimbouski Jedi Youngling

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    Apologies if this has been asked before, but I'm still wading through the EU, and I was wondering, how many, if any, interspecies relationships have been documented in the EU? The only one that comes to mind is the story in the Jabba's Palace book about the dancer and the bounty hunter(?) and I'm not even sure about that one. Did the Republic or the Empire have any kind of policy about different species mating? I can probably guess the Empire's policy but I wondered if it was ever addressed somewhere.

    Come to think of it, how many non-human same-species relationships have there been in the EU? The only one that comes to mind right off the top of my head is Chewie and Lumpy.
     
  2. JEDI-KILLER_17

    JEDI-KILLER_17 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I present you the sex [link=http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/16407960/p148/?7384]thread[/link].

    Oh and the Rogues were definitely into the furries. [face_shhh]
     
  3. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Force Ghost star 5

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    what? no lock yet?
     
  4. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    is this all you guys think off?:p
     
  5. darth_Boba

    darth_Boba Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's all kinds of gross.
     
  6. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I think you mean Chewie and Malla. Lumpy was his son.

    But this thread asks for a specific answer, not an ongoing sex discussion. So someone answer it.
     
  7. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    Come to think of it, how many non-human same-species relationships have there been in the EU? The only one that comes to mind right off the top of my head is Chewie and Lumpy.

    Yeah, you might wanna be careful of that.
     
  8. RebelGrrl

    RebelGrrl Jedi Master star 4

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    Including near-human species (Zeltrons, Kiffar, etc) ...

    Corran Horn and his Selonian girlfriend
    Wedge Antilles and Qwi Xux
    Cade Skywalker and Deliah Blue
    Master Tholme and the tree-woman (I forget her name)
    Quinlan Vos and Kathleen
    Boba Fett and Sintas Vel
    Jaxxon and Amaiza

    This is by no means an exhaustive list. Just what comes to mind that's clearly portrayed and not just hinted at/subtext.
     
  9. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There have been a number of them. Off the top of my head, excluding human/near-human pairs...

    Corran Horn/Chertyl Ruluwoor (Human/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Selonian]Selonian[/link], Rogue Squadron novels)
    Gavin Darklighter/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Asyr_Sei%27lar]Asyr Sei'lar[/link] (Human/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bothan]Bothan[/link], Rogue Squadron novels)
    Revan/Juhani (Human/Cathar, one infamous KotOR romance option)
    Face Loran/Dia Passik (Human/Twi'lek, Wraith Squadron novels)
    Nawara Ven/Rhysati Ynr (Twi'lek/Human, Rogue Squadron novels)
    Lak Sivrak/Dice Ibegon ([link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wolfman]Shistavanen[/link]/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Florn_Lamproid]Florn Lamproid[/link], Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina)
    [link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Feltipern_Trevagg]Feltipern Trevagg[/link]/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/M%27iiyoom_Onith]M'iiyoom Onith[/link] ([link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gotal]Gotal[/link]/[link=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/H%27nemthe]H'nemthe[/link], Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina)

    Wes Janson and Hobbie Klivian also hooked up with some female Bothans in the X-wing comics. And, of course, numerous cases of Twi'lek females and Zeltrons. Plus, many more that I'm forgetting.

    In short, it happens often enough in the EU. There are a fair number of explicit interspecies couples, as well as some that are implied or observed (e.g. there is what appears to be an Ithorian/Rodian couple in Mandatory Retirement.)

    As for the Empire's opinion on such liasons, I'm sure Jello will be along shortly to issue their judgement. ;)
     
  10. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Force Ghost star 5

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    with your permission. O:)

    I think it's to the point now that not much is made of an interspecies pairing, unless the 2 species are absurdly mismatched.

    Humans and near-humans paired together can be seen numerous places, from film to novel to comic books and videogames.

    And as is always, the coupling of Asyr Sei'lar and Gavin Darklighter in the X-wing books is by far the most prominently known...and this was amplified by the relationship facing obstacles mostly from the Bothan cultural taboos.

    As far as same species couples...they are laced throughout EU, but when your main story focuses around adventures, armies, and various degrees of scumbags...family life is rarely at the forefront.

    I wouldn't dare to stake a guess to numbering such examples...but the tone of Star Wars has moved away from the xenophobic imperial/post-imperial period. Are there still cases of it? certainly. But mating habits are common even in the uncommon ways.
     
  11. Jmacq1

    Jmacq1 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In general, there's really not that much said about anyone's "policies" about inter-species relations. It's not really the kind of thing any official literature is likely to go into either, Star Wars being a PG-13 rated universe and all. Presumably, if the races are physically compatible and capable of deriving physical pleasure from the act, and don't have specific social mores or xenophobia that prevents such things, "mating" is fair game, though no offspring are likely to be produced (except possibly between near-humans and humans). The Empire probably had more important things to worry about (and hey, at the very least interspecies coupling probably meant the aliens in question weren't breeding, so they might have even encouraged it), and the Republic isn't likely to look down upon such things.

    As far as documented interspecies romantic/pseudoromantic relationships (though only in very few cases are any sexual relations implied, strongly or otherwise), the ones I can think of off the top of my head:

    Kit Fisto (Nautolan) and Aayla Secura (Twi'lek) (More of a flirtation, but close enough to qualify I think).

    Juhani (Cathar) and her "friend" (Human) from the Jedi Temple on Dantooine (Strongly implied in KOTOR, notable for being both interspecies and homosexual)

    Tholme (Human) and T'raa Saa (Neti)

    And of course Zeltrons will mate with just about anyone or anything that strikes their fancy. Often simply just to "see what it's like."

    There are several instances of individuals (of various given species) finding those of another species physically attractive, though no relationship usually develops. For example, Obi-Wan Kenobi considered Taun We of the Kaminoans "attractive" upon first meeting her.

    I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

    EDIT: Removed ones already covered elsewhere.
     
  12. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Most human/near-human relationships aren't much of an interesting example because most near-Humans are really just humans.
     
  13. mike_zimbouski

    mike_zimbouski Jedi Youngling

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    Aha yeah, I definitely meant Malla and not Lumpy. Whoops.

    Thanks to everyone who's answered! I hadn't heard of most of the couples mentioned; looks like I have more reading to do!

    Now I'm curious about what the in-universe reaction would be if two ill-matched species decided to mate, or which interspecies relationships would be frowned upon as "absurd." But as another poster said, these are probably not topics which will be addressed in SW canon anytime soon.
     
  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    THE EMPIRE IS VI--oh, wait.

    Interspecies relationships are abominable. Bestiality is no good.
     
  15. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    GAJ, then you can never get with a human. After all, jello is an awkward species. But I just prefer to eat my jello instead of marrying it.:p
     
  16. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Bestiality? Ouch. I don't think the majority of the galaxy will take kindly to that statement. Why not take after the more enlightened Fel III?
     
  17. StateOfLoveAndTrust

    StateOfLoveAndTrust Jedi Master star 2

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    And what's the Empire's view on the recent outbreak of Mandalorian-love-that-dare-not-speak-its-name?





     
  18. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    BobaMatt: It is relations between different species, is it not?

    Individuals of the same species can do as they like. :)
     
  19. RebelGrrl

    RebelGrrl Jedi Master star 4

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    What about Moffs and officers who've sampled the illicit pleasures of those deemed not genetic pure humans? Enlisted and clones, even?

    I gotta wonder how many demerits that earns. [face_laugh]

    Selonian? KP duty for a year!
    Zeltron? Drop, give me twenty... and her(his?) comm number.
    Hutt? No... no, don't even want to know. Straight to the airlock, do not pass the brig, do not collect your severance.
     
  20. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Didn't the Emperor have a harem full of Twi'leks?
     
  21. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I've heard people say that, but I've never heard a source on it.

    Either way: it's not a relationship. It's purely for pleasure, and the Emperor can do as he wishes.
     
  22. Obi-kokey

    Obi-kokey Jedi Knight star 1

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    You also have Leia & Xizor. The Falleen have powerful phermones that attract other species, almost to the degree of mind-control, this despite the fact that they are distinctly reptilian where most species in the GFFA appear to be mammals.
     
  23. Sci Michaels

    Sci Michaels Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'm surprised all the Rogue examples above didn't include the Quarren/Mon Cal relationship.
     
  24. RebelGrrl

    RebelGrrl Jedi Master star 4

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    Not so surprising, really, if you assume that the phermones the Falleen emit are a biological legacy of their evolution hunting mammallian species for food. To be able to lure mammals to you would be an evolutionary advantage.

    Now, that doesn't explain why female Falleen have breasts.
     
  25. Giolon05

    Giolon05 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Because if it doesn't have boobs, it's not a girl and no one would want to have sex with it. Come on, we all know that. 8-}
     
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