Census Is it ok to punch fascists in or around their face?

I have a problem with the way it phrases some of the questions.

"Nowadays more and more people are prying into matters that should remain personal and private."

I think I know what matters it's getting at, and I think that society has improved on this point, in that people now interfere less into people's sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status and whatnot, so I gave no, since yes would mean that people now pry more. Although things are not where we want them to be, things were definitely worse before. But when you answer no, it assumes you mean that no, people should absolutely pry and it's by all means everyone's business to bud in and have an opinion about your life.

 

Let's be honest here, some people - and I won't name names but they've a tattoo of a heart with the word "Colo" inside it - answered the test in a way that gives them the answer they want, and not because it's reflective of their true fascist selves.

 

Yeah, it assume you're in favour of a secret police or mass state surveillance - if you vote no.

 

One would think knowing its a Fascism test would mess with the results. I don't remember agreeing with any of them, just varying levels of disagreement and a few neutrals.



This makes me 21.4% less authoritarian than the average person.

Zero percent superstition? That's right. GTFO with your astrology and doomsaying.

Only 10% authoritarian aggression? Kinda surprised, but I've probably seen people punished enough.

29% anti-intraception? **** your abstract art, that's why.

Only 17% power-toughness? I thought those 80s action movies meant more to me than that.

33% Destructiveness-Cynicism? [Amy Poehler]Oo-ooh![/Amy Poehler] HIGH FIVE FOR MY FELLOW DESTRUCTIVE AMERICANS! Bet we score high on that compared to the rest of the world.

Only 11% anti-degeneracy because I'm not worried about all the gay sex that is just everywhere.

They didn't intend "should". The test judges receptivity, openness, to fascism. They posted a fascist thought and wanted to see how open you were to it. You were open to it enough to consider it.

I found that an easy maximum disagree. I don't find it poorly worded, it judges your base reaction to that kind of thinking. You either reject it or you don't. If you don't reject it outright, you have some level of receptivity, some sort of acceptance, to that kind of fascist thinking. Anything less than max disagreement conveys some sort of acceptance.

Personally, I ******* hate that kind of thinking, so I went straight to MAX DISAGREE, I didn't stop to think of technicalities, didn't stop to think, "But, technically, people can be divided..." NOPE, I hate that statement too much to be slowed down.

 

@CT-867-5309
But the test didn't record how open I was to the suggestion, only my final decision (strongly disagree based on my understanding of the question). If you couldn't arbitrarily divide people into us/them groups, there are a lot of ideologies, fascism included, that wouldn't exist. I was able to realize that by the way the wording was presented, the statement could be both true and something I disagreed with. Posing the question that way does nothing if you don't have a timer or something to see how long the thought is considered.

 

I agree more with CT on that one, but some of the questions have misleading wording, like the one I mentioned above. I don't think people pry into people's lives more today than before. Actually, I think the acceptance and appreciation of individual differences has increased. But if I give a no or a softer yes, it assumes that I'm in favour of more prying and budding into people's lives.

There was also a weird one about people's sexual practices compared to ancient Greece and Rome. First of all, I'm not even sure what it means, because it has this creepy judgemental wording as if it's a bible thumper. I have a problem with the entire question. But if it's referring to number of sexual partners or people living out weird kinks, today's larger human population and the ease of travel and communication probably makes both easier. But if I answer affirmative, it assumes that I have some kind of moralistic objection to this, which I don't.

Not to mention the one about people wanting to jump from high places, which can be interpreted as innocently as some people being adrenaline junkies or as sinisterly as some people being born wanting to kill themselves.

 

Let us discover a more appropriate fascist test, with less misleading questions and more focused on the fascist doctrine. A JCC field trip! Huzzah

 

Or we can do what antifa does and just hit any whitepassing person we see with a bike lock

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/0...-bike-lock-attack-arraigned-in-oakland-court/

 

This result seems about right.


EDIT: And yet, according to this test, I'm 34% Fascist and a Fellow-Traveler.
https://www.idrlabs.com/fascism/test.php

 

Anti-intraception ? the hell is that ? Christopher Nolan's next movie ?

 

Conventionalism -21%
Authoritarian submission 24%
Authoritarian aggression 25%
Anti intraception 25%
Superstition stereotypy 11%
Power toughness 38%
Destructiveness cynicism 50%
Anti degeneracy 44%
Total 33%

This makes you 5.4% less authoritarian than the average person.

On the other one:

You are 23% Fascist, which makes you Not Fascist.

While your political outlook may share a few (or even quite a few) of fascism's fundamental doctrines, it is overall safe to say that your political orientation is *not* a fascist one. Now, you may find this result unsurprising, but in reality, most people have at least some points of agreement with fascism since fascism is really a mix of communism, socialism, conservatism, and liberalism, with a few innovations of its own thrown in. Hence, adjusting for these factors, even though your fascism percentage might seem quite high, there is really nothing surprising about these agreements, when viewed in their proper historical context, so rest assured: Your political beliefs are definitely not fascist.

 

Well, according to that test, hitting someone with a bike lock is far to liberal for me

 

Taking some of the other tests on that site made me realize that some of the statements would make for good discussion here. Even on the feminism test I bet J-Rod and I agree on a few things. That would probably be surprising for people and good for morale.

But I also took the libertarian test and got 0% libertarian.

I might make a string of census threads based on some of those statements. Or maybe bring up some of the statements from the feminism test in the feminism thread, and statements from other tests in the appropriate threads. Yeah, that's probably better. Too many threads, otherwise.

 

Interesting name choice for Le Pen, almost identical to France's puppet government during World War II

 

I have to ask :
Ender , is this a joke thread ? I mean I kinda thought it was started to make fun of those 1st yr. college students who think they're so political by being anti-fascist etc.

But now I'm not sure , shall we establish what fascists are nowadays first ?

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No.

 

Ok to answer seriously; it was to mock the liberal preference to not use violence against fascists even though modern history is all about using violence against fascists, to great ends.

 

But who do you think are the fascists now ?

 

I think it's very clear, no? Populists are a gateway, but it's anyone on the fringe right looking to disrupt the progress of the social order and restore what they would call a balance, but we would call white male privilege.

 

Fascists are anyone that crybullies disagree with

 

what is a crybully?

Vivec you know I'm old and cannot keep up with your memes.

 

Older or younger than VVM?

 

I'm 40 in 2019.

Wait. Blade Runner is set in 2019.

40.

BLADE RUNNER 2049 WAS ALL TRUE!

Can you just PM me weekly with a quick memorandum explaining this week's memes and terms?

 

Wow ur old.