Is there anything in the EU that's generally, all-around LIKED?

at least, I pray no one comes here as some form of self-punishment or self-hatred.

Well, actually....

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Everybody loves Starfighters of Adumar!

 

If only Ex were still here...

 

its been said, but seriously, Kyle Katarn, he's not everyones favorite character but i bet there is no one out there who hates him, he's unhateable!

(unhateable, is word now).

 

She's from an ancient comic book noone remembers and that noone read so i'm like "Huh? when did all this happen? There's no book about her past with luke." I don't like it when they do that even if she was a good villian.

 

Actually, I think he said he disliked it even though he thought she WAS a good character, and she is/was.

The thing that's nice about the way they handled her was how simple they made her introduction. We weren't tortured with a lengthy introduction or flashback or backstory, it was just "This is Lumiya, Dark Lady of the Sith". Okay, I'm game.

"She was an Imperial spy and then Luke shot her down and Vader rebuilt her"

Do tell?

"She was an Emperor's Hand and now she's trying to resurrect the Sith"

Bang, there you go. What else do you need?

On one hand we get people asking for the return of all sorts of obscure characters, and then when we get one, we had people complaining that she had no place in the story.

There's not much people need to know about Lumiya, and it was all revealed through dialogue between characters (the bits with Luke in her apartment were great) and just the fact that people are crapping their pants that she's kicking around is enough.

You know, the thing that strikes me about LoTF is an underlying theme that's almost similar to Warren Ellis' GLOBAL FREQUENCY, the idea of the "unexploded bombs of the past century" coming back to haunt the world/galaxy. There's a real sense of "nothing stays buried for ever" and "everything has a price", and now we're seeing a lot of that paid off, and that's one aspect that I really like and wished they had expanded to include even more characters.

 

I hate Starfighters of Adumar. The weak, watered down 181st pilots are almost as insulting as the weak, watered down TIE Defenders.

 

So if it doesn't happen in a book, it's not good EU? Read more comics. You'll like 'em. The Marvels are actually fantastic, and quite a treat to read. Especially in original issue form.

His post got me thinking --- I'm pretty sure that Pablo is one aspect of the EU that everyone likes. Abel, too.

 

The Jedi Prince series.






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Erm, seriously, maybe... Talon Karrde? YJK-era Tenel Ka?

 

Pablo ticked off a segment of fans with his dismissal of some issues by pointing out glibly that yellow letters don't really float in space, so no to that one, and I'm afraid no to the other as well.

It's impossible to find one thing or one person that everyone loves, it's just silly. People hates Lucas for goodness sake, so I don't think we're going to fond anything that passes the test because you'll always find someone to hate on it, or dislike it, at least, but there is truth in the fact that some things are much more loved than others, sometimes for opposing reasons.

There's no single unified theory of Star Wars or fandom, and thank goodness for that. I want change and I want different things and tones and themes, which means that I'm going to get some things I don't like, and that's fine by me.

 

Was it one of them, or was it Leland, who came up with the silly retcon that "Although everything else Palpatine says is indisputably true -no certain point of view poodoo- the one cool thing Palpatine ever says, that Endor wasn't his first death, was the only lie he ever told"?

 

I can't remember there been a lot of hate for SWAJ back in the day.

 

The problem with taking such an ancient character from the ancient marvels is that these comics generally aren't available to read and if they have been re-printed, I can't find them for sale anywhere.

 

Don't forget that Lumiya/Shira Brie got her own entry in the New Essential Guide to Characters in 2002, and was discussed in the Essential Chronology. I'm guessing that at least some of that was in anticipation of her later return. So, while the original source material is "ancient" for some of you young whippersnappers, Lumiya was hardly absent from the EU since 1986.

Ancient? I'll give you ancient, you little punks. Now, get off my lawn!

 

I think I would agree on Kyle Katarn.

ARE there people who hate him? Nah, he probably killed them all.

 

That sucks that you can't find them anywhere! I was able to find every comic with Shira/Lumiya (save for... the last one or two with Lumiya) in the collections of three different comic stores last summer before Betrayal came out. The reprints can probably be ordered online from Things from Another World?

Hmmm... it is true that old people are concerned with young people being on their lawn.

I doubt if the 2002 entry was in anticipation of Legacy of the Force. When LOTF was originally being planned, the role of Lumiya was simply a "Wizard-like character", until it was decided that Lumiya could fulfill that role. And we know that LOTF was to be set in the Sith Era until June of 2004. However, you merely said "in anticipation of her later return", and I agree that there was probably a hope to not leave her in limbo back in 2002.

 

You hate The Katarn, but like Lumiya, Dark Lady of the Sith!

LOL

Oh god, I think my uncle had a comic book that had her in it. I was like 10 or something when I read the comic. It was retarded then and at 30+ it's mind numblingly retarded now.

Didn't she have special force powers or something, like she coudl shoot energy beams or whatever? Those old Marvel Star Wars comics where the worst.

 

You are aware of the LotF books?

 

I don't think I've seen anyone who dislikes the Kotor comics yet.

 

I agree, I'm a huge fan of TTT. Thrawn is the most interesting and awesome character I have read about in the SW Universe.

 

Not a fan of it either. I liked the HotE dualogy better, but even it had its faults. Not a Thrawn fan, either.

 

Hmm...

This is surprisingly easy to figure out.

-Kyle Katarn is a cool guy who solves his problems by shooting them in the face. Any objections?
-StealthXs, no one can hate StealthX. They are like mini X wings for the next Gen.
-Thrawn's brother, Thrass. No reason to hate him at all.
-Revan. Cool guy, caused a really fun war and redeemed himself and went off into the space, not bothering anyone.
-Kyp Durron. If you don't love Kyp. You are the devil. He has long hair now and a girl who likes it that way. Can't blame him.
-Lorne Pavan is a guy no one really knows about so you have no reason to hate him.

No reason to ahte any of them.


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