ST It wasn't All Bad

you can't say can't to other people who can

 

The Boba Fett and Obi-Wan content will foster plenty of goodwill.

 

Always in motion is future, difficult to see.

 

What's annoying about the ST is that it takes one of my issues with the PT and dials it up to 11. Like there's some stuff in the PT that doesn't really make sense... and if you complain about it people will tell you "oh watch this 5 season cartoon and they explain it".

The ST like like 100 times worse.... I have to watch a cartoon, read a bunch of novels and then reference some guide books and wookiepedia to even know the basic backstory, much less basic backgrounds on half the characters. It's like a whole trilogy full of "Sifo-dyas" plot threads.

 

Or Disney's way of making money!

 

Except most of those plot threads aren’t developed in canon or are even contradicted. It’s pretty awful in terms of storytelling.

 

Yeah, maybe I wasn't clear, but that's what I'm saying - it's bad!

And also to be clear - I don't even care whether the out of movie stuff goes anywhere or not. If a film maker can't be bothered to adequately explain something important in the damn film I just don't bother with it. (I do think having little ancillary details explained in other media can be cool - but NOT major background or plot points)

 

I understood that I am just saying that even if you do everything you listed your still not going to find the complete story because they haven't figured any of it out yet. I know I tried and gave up and sold off all of my comics and most of my new Canon books all I have left is stuff that ties into Rogue One, Clone Wars, Rebels and the OT the rest is gone.

 

The dark side I sense in you…

 

The Han Kylo scenes were really good. Wish we had more of that. There was a rumored scene of Han and little Kylo on the Falcon I would have liked to have seen.

 

The word "apathy' sums it up well. I think TFA and TLJ are fine and engaging as individual blockbuster films. I think TROS is truly horrendous by any metric BUT I will give it credit for trying to shove some plot in there to make up for the previous two films' neglect of it. But yeah, each film works to just completely neutralize the other 2 so that the end result just feels like...nothing. It's hard to even hate it because that would require having more feelings than the end result really leaves me with. Like at this point it's hard to get invested in the good parts of TFA/TLJ cause it just ultimately doesn't matter.

The result is 3 films that just kinda exist and add nothing to the overall 9 episode story. They work as sequels but you can literally just take them or leave them, there's nothing that feels truly "essential", the way the PT's flawed exploration of the republic, the jedi, pre-Vader Anakin, Kenobi and Anakin (..etc) feel important in the way they inform the story of the OT.

This is kinda why I defend TLJ. I think that at least on some thematic level it attempts (with very mixed results) to add some new layers of meaning to the overall story, mainly with Luke and Kylo's stuff. I think its attempt at being an epilogue to the OT successfully elicits some meaningful emotions, though it does so while failing to create a meaningful story specifically for the ST (which TFA failed to do as well frankly, but TFA at least gave good introductions for the new ensemble).

 

As I posted elsewhere, one of the good things about the OT was that, unlike the MCU, for example, you only need to see three movies to get the story. Yes, there was the beginnings of the EU for fans, but you could avoid them and still get the gist of the saga. The PT was, to an extent, the same way, though they did rely on other sources for some background, especially between AOTC and ROTS. The ST relies on outside material far too much, though.

 

It's pretty much the real-life equivalent of this:

 

I really enjoy 7,8,9 but I don't enjoy the ST. That's the problem with the new movies as they work on their own as a standalone, but don't really work as a Trilogy. The Problem is they are the third trilogy in a Saga, so they are meant to be watched that way.

 

Honestly, the films didn't work as stand alones or as a whole trilogy to me.

 

The movies are certainly not all bad. And they are absolutely not the abominations I've heard some call them. The problem is that the good things seem to bring the bad things into focus. For example, Mark Hamill delivers a fine performance in TLJ, but it reminds you that he's playing Jake Skywalker, not Luke. Or the scene with Han's ghost (yes, it's his ghost, not some subconscious memory, I unshakably believe) in TROS is well-done, but it reminds you how they needlessly murdered him in TFA. And good characterizations for Finn and Poe in TFA remind you that those will be short-circuited in TLJ, then changed again for TROS.
I go along with those who feel sad about all the missed opportunities in the ST.

 

I have always liked the ST. However, they are no where near as good as the first 6. My opinion of course. Loving them is a different story, which is to say I love the first 6.

 

FTFY!