[JCC Social threads/groups policy] A 6 month wait for a 1 month thread? This needs to end NOW

If a group of people simply started posting in a social way in a random thread, in an attempt to form a social atmosphere, would this thread be locked?

Not speaking as a mod, but I can say with certainty that when the "Tribe" thread was started, it was in no way, shape, or form intended or even meant to be a social thread. That's just what it eventually became. After talking to Jeff, that's the way the AC was as well.

The majority of social threads weren't created as "Hey, let's make a social thread." They were created as "Hey, let's make a thread" and it eventually evolves into more.

I don't get what this obsession with having your own, labeled, social thread is. THAT is cliquey. Having a thread that is about something general, but has a core group of dedicated posters, is not.

 

That's a good way to put it, Carmen.

I've been thinking lately that there should be no labeled social threads from this point, and only those who turn into social threads.

 

droideka27 posted on 6/7/05 8:10pm

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Exactly, Paul is right

[i]Not more than any other group, I just feel we deserve one. malkie, how many times must I type it? I don't care if the previous social threads existed before this policy was put in place, you guys should have more guts than to be afraid of users in those threads.[/i]

he he he he *snort* wow.

k, when you become a mod, dear tunick, you can spend all your time locking threads that you feel are "too social" and having every single call challenged over PM or in comms.

The policy is working quite well. And we just fixed an area that needed fixing. We're making progress.
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[color=red]No offense, how hard is it push buttons on your keyboards & use your computer mouses? That's all the stuff Mods do when locking threads anyway, it's not hard work. If the policy is working so well, why not lift it & see what happens? Nobody has even mentioned my solution (having 1 or 2 new JCC mods specializing in social threads) as way of keeping the JCC calm if this policy were to be lifted.[/color]

 

It looks like the Sarcasm Knights have turned the "What do you think of the Sarcasm Knights?" thread into their social thread.

 

That's outrageous!

 

Hardly. You've got a bunch of Knights posting in there, and you're carrying on like you did in your old social thread. It seems like your trying to skirt along the happy side of the YJCC policy.

 

Houston, we have a problem.

This is a thinly-veiled attempt at a social thread.





your argument fails due to the fact that I'm not a Knight.

And you were being sarcastic.

 

"Hardly. You've got a bunch of Knights posting in there, and you're carrying on like you did in your old social thread. It seems like your trying to skirt along the happy side of the YJCC policy. "

Your argument fails due to the fact that I'm not a Knight.

 

Well, we all knew that was going to happen sooner or later. The fact of the matter is the Knights are seen as the problem children of the YJCC. That is not the reason however that we cannot get a social thread. The new "Shiny Council" cannot get a social group thread either.

The policy changed. Do I like it? No. Can I change it? No. Even if I were a mod could I change it? No.

The Mods/Managers/Admins had reasons for changing the policy, whether it be spam or whatever. If the Knights had been established for longer then perhaps things would have been different, perhaps not.

Either way it is a dead issue and I see no reason to continue beating this dead horse. And I would now like to take this opprotunity to announce my candidacy for President of the United States.

Jack1138 in 2008! Nice ring to it don't you think?



Now back to your regularly schedueled forums!

 

Jack, how can things change if they're not discussed?

 

DarthTunick posted on 6/7/05 11:56pm

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[color=red]Jack, how can things change if they're not discussed?[/color]
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um, this thread would be a discussion - no?

We've addressed your original point and changed policy to try and meet your original point. Discussion over I think.

 

Sheesh. If you want it that badly, why not just make a board yourself? Can you honestly not see the reasoning in not wanting several dozen social threads? At the rate those things move... it would be a nightmare for the mods.... even if a few moer were promoted. It just dosen't seem like a viable solution to me.

 

Although I don't get involved much with the 'social thread' type of thing, I do think the waiting list is a good idea to keep control after the forum has expanded in size over the years.

I used to think it was a bit silly, but I see merit in it now.

 

Sigh. I can't see any possible merit in this.

 

Then you either have a short memory, or were not in the JC when the rule was introduced. There was a good reason for it, and it did have merit.

 

you are just wasting your time, tunick. just accept the fact that no one from the upper echelons wants a "sarcasm knights" thread. they are all laughing at the knights because of the turmoil that is being caused by this pointless debate. however, there are alternatives to fighting.

 

Darth_Ignant posted on 6/8/05 9:24am

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Then you either have a short memory, or were not in the JC when the rule was introduced. There was a good reason for it, and it did have merit.
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[color=red]If the this damn policy was introduced between January-September 2004, then you're right. I wasn't here during those 9 months.[/color]

 

I'm curious about when the policy was introduced as well (mainly to explore the statement "just accept the fact that no one from the upper echelons wants a "sarcasm knights" thread."). Was it at the time of the Sarcasm Knights request to become a social group, or are they just the first group to protest it? The most recent newly established social group appears to be The Shadow Sith Army in March of this year, so I'm assuming the rule was made after that.

 

carmenite42 posted on 6/8/05 1:09pm

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I'm curious about when the policy was introduced as well (mainly to explore the statement "just accept the fact that no one from the upper echelons wants a "sarcasm knights" thread."). Was it at the time of the Sarcasm Knights request to become a social group, or are they just the first group to protest it? The most recent newly established social group appears to be [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Your_Jedi_Council_Community/b10008/18634483/p1]The Shadow Sith Army[/link] in March of this year, so I'm assuming the rule was made after that.
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[color=red]If that's the case, I would be angry, but not suprised.[/color]

 

they are all laughing at the knights because of the turmoil that is being caused by this pointless debate.

I'm constantly amazed at how people think that just because a rule affects them that the rule was put in place specifically to "defeat" their purposes. It isn't about the Knights or any other group. The fact remains that social threads became a huge issue in the past and were starting to become an issue late last year. So, the waiting list was put in place. If you don't like it, create an offshoot board like 99% of the people here.

Like others have said, many threads here become social threads. If you don't break the rules of conduct then the mods generally leave you alone.

I think it says something that the mods changed their policy to make it better for those on the waiting list but still some people want to complain. A compromise was made to help the majority of JCC posters. It's too bad that it doesn't get the Knights what they want, but oh well.

 

I think it says something that the mods changed their policy to make it better for those on the waiting list but still some people want to complain. A compromise was made to help the majority of JCC posters. It's too bad that it doesn't get the Knights what they want, but oh well.



Still having a thread for one month is no solution.

 

We disagree, for reasons that have been discussed many times before.

 

Quixotic-Sith posted on 6/8/05 1:25pm

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We disagree, for reasons that have been discussed many times before.
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[color=red]Reasons that in my view are completely unfair.[/color]

 

Then we have hit an impasse. We have endeavored to meet the needs of the majority of the YJCC with the policy, and have agreed to make a change in light of the present discussion. It's unfortunate that you are still unsatisfied, but our concerns are the welfare of the community.

 

Here is my question.

It appears that the Sarcasm Knights have been trying to get a thread going since before March of this year. However, in March another group was approved by the mods, while the knights were overlooked.

If that's true, and they have been trying since before the Shadow Sith Army, but were passed over in favor of the Shadow Sith Army, then I can totally understand their frustration.

Could a mod respond to that, and explain why one group was allowed, but the other wasn't?