ST JJ Abrams directing Episode IX Discussion

Read MagnarTheGreat's post above mine... there has been speculation by those in the know that Lucas did not care for TLJ's take on his ideas even though he thought the film was "beautifully made." I'm not bashing the ST, I am just saying that Lucas has said when he loved a film and he had a different choice of words for TLJ.

 

Yes. Always has he demonstrated that he has taste. /s

 

Indeed, that's more tasteful than the TLJ.

 

Not with TFA but with VII when it was based on his story. What exactly was what when is nebulous. Publicly Lucas seemed to still be involved until early 2013 but that could just be cover as they didn't want to reveal that they weren't using his stories until a bit later. Maybe they were mining Lucas for ideas until JJ came in full time after STID was released. JJ has said they weren't using Lucas' stories before he came on board but that doesn't fit. The ST has used plot points and some elements from what Lucas came up with.

Yet JJ made a particular point of it. It might be nothing more than publicity of course but Lucas does that for them by showing up occasionally here or there and going to the premieres ( not sure if he went to all of them).

When bringing back Sidious and saying that (at least for marketing purposes) this is the last of a 9 episode saga going back 40 years you have to have some kind of attempt to show that is the case.

Possibly they will do a couple of trailers rather than just one more and one will be a "complete saga" trailer like the fans ones that have been done.

 

In other words, nothing but hearsay by people who don't know Lucas at all, got it. There are way too many people out there who claim to know what other people think, and so far none of them have ever proven that they were right. It is completely unknown what Lucas thinks about any of the new movies beyond what he has publically stated (and he isn't exactly someone who would gush over or bash something in public). People shouldn't just take the word from someone who is supposedly in the know. Even if someone had some somewhat decent sources on ongoing productions, that still doesn't mean that they know anything about Lucas or what he thinks.

It sounds way too much like "my brother's best friend's aunt's dog-keeper once hang out with Lucas' dog". There isn't really any use in such statements, because Lucas would never go out and bother to comment on such rumours, which means anyone with "sources" can claim just about anything. Now, if Spielberg or someone like him would for some reason state what George Lucas thought about a specific movie, there is at least a decent chance of it being factually true. But even then, that person could have misunderstood his thoughts, or, if quoted by a third person, may not even have made that exact statement.

To top things off, there are plenty of people who try way too hard to read between the lines or try to come up with an interpretation of their own. Just look at all the people who twist the words of Iger or Kennedy so that they fit to their alternate reality.

 

I've found Mark to be a much more trustworthy source on Star Wars than JJ and KK since the sale.

 

We've seen how Lucas works with dialogue over and over again though. So Lucas will say the most important thing to him in the world are his children. So that means he means his 4 kids right?

Sure but then he also talks about how he sees his movies as being his "children". Just as in the movies Lucas is very specific and judicious with his use of words. This is the same person who created Sidious.

 

The only movie he's publicly stated his dislike for is TFA. He called it "a retro movie" and said that "they wanted to make a movie for the fans," whereas he would've made a movie that would tell a good story.

 

Bashing TLJ in JJ's thread on TROS forum?

Yall need a new hobby.

 

Well, they could've brought RJ back for TROS...

 

I don't believe he was ever offered it, and it would have been logistically crazy to throw him on, given that he was in the thick of post production on TLJ when Trevorrow left.

 

Yes, let's keep things on topic in here.

 

We've seen the North By Northwest influence in the teaser trailer, as well as a general Western vibe to that scene. What other specific influences do you think JJ will bring to the table? Prior to releasing his own movies, does JJ ever mention specific older films that influenced his movie?

 

Not even kidding, I could be okay if Kylo got shot in the head and lost his memory and magically became a better person

 

Per the North by Northwest reference, there's also this shot from Lawrence of Arabia. Abrams mentioned they went to the some of the same locations in Jordan.

 

Interesting that Lucas also wanted exact film location from Lawrence of Arabia for AOTC scene.

 

NXNW? Tie Fighter and Rey?

 

In addition to Lawrence of Arabia and North By Northwest, perhaps Rango.

Spoiler

Maybe Rey latches onto the TIE, and Kylo soars high into the atmosphere. They have a brief zero-g duel, then they drop back down to the planet, crashing the craft.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywoo...film-has-been-planned-from-the-very-beginning

 

After this VF interview I hate JJ even more as an filmmaker.
Why does he think he is the Gospel of SW?
He knows nothing about it, everything he does is a boring bad copie of what came before.
There are fanfilms out there a million times more spectacular and unique then everything he ever created.
Lucas should have given the franchise to a studio with some real vision for the Saga.

 

He...doesn't? That's why he consulted with George on this?

Crazy thought.

 

Hmmm... is this another MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools prank in the making?

 

What I hope it means is that he will be more willing to take risks, even if his choices end up being controversial to some people.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/star-wars-cover-story?verso=true

 

Yep. Controversial is what I'm wanting, bring it.