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Kathleen Kennedy not leaving lucasfilm

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by black_saber, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    That's the video I was poking fun of. The 'new' sources is the 'bounding into comics' article. If Campea wants to be taken seriously as a news informant he needs to ignore clickbait outlets like that.
     
  2. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Seems like TFM hate gets everywhere .
     
  3. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Campea made a video about that article because they mentioned him in it. Notice though how Campea never mentions in the video where the article is from.
     
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  4. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah sometimes i dont listen to him when talking about Star wars because of this. I sometimes visits months in between.
     
  5. DarkLordoftheFins

    DarkLordoftheFins Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What? You wanna say Mike Zeroh isn’t real?

    [face_laugh]

    Anyway, it is obviously KK has the support of Disney. They gave her a pass on Indy 5, which must have hurt financially. So I guess she will be allowed to conclude her cycle of products.
     
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  6. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Its obvious Kathleen Kennedy isn't leaving so soon..

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  7. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    And no one wants to replace her
     
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  8. DarkLordoftheFins

    DarkLordoftheFins Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Actually it would lead to a similiar Problem to James Gunn at DC. He took over and the first three releases were The Flash, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2, which he had little hand in. Here someone would take over and release The Acolyte (which is already under fire by fans) and Skeleton Crew. Then there are three movies announced. And THEN the new guy could slowly start positioning his vision and product.

    The mass content strategies nowadays really doesn’t make it so attractive to take over franchises. So much is produced, you basically inherit all the stuff your predecessor got fired for. And who takes over Lucasfilm as long as Disney hasn’t fully revealed what they plan to cut in their cost-cutting initiative. I think this will be a discussion once KK’s contract expires. Not earlier.

    Also who? Filoni has one live action tv show under his belt, no movie. Favreau has become more and more silent lately. Both never ran a studio, never budgeted a whole slate of shows and movies. Gilroy wasn’t involved in broader strategies and also is a creative.

    I remember Neil Jordan once said he wanted to shoot The Borgia TV show, but ended up running a studio instead because of the scope of the show. And that it was not a good experience. Same could be true here.
     
  9. Django211

    Django211 Force Ghost star 4

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    Kennedy has been head of Lucasfilm since 2012. I can't believe people still click on youtubers who say she is getting fired. Despite what they say they have no sources, no inside info and don't know anyone "high up" in Disney. They're just making clickbait. Kennedy will step down whenever she wants and most likely has been grooming her replacement.

    Hopefully every time someone posts "Kennedy is getting fired" a youtuber gets de-monetized.
     
  10. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    They need their views. These people are trying to avoid having to go get real jobs.
     
  11. PolymerSkywalker

    PolymerSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    She has just made a ton of really bad Lucasfilm content,
    It is simply wishful thinking.

    if she can survive Indy 5 flopping so hard, she obviously isn’t going anywhere!
     
  12. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Nothing been bad under her, just mixed or good. Also she been more successful as President of LFL then when GL was making the movies. And Indy 5 barely go marketing.
     
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  13. PolymerSkywalker

    PolymerSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Andor, Willow, Indy 5, Book of Boba, Obi Wan, Solo, and possibly Ahsoka have all underperformed. It is very confusing to me to hear KK has not had anything bad under her.

    They literally stopped making movies because they freaked out when Solo flipped. Willow was so bad they took a tax write off and pulled it off Disney+. Indy 5 is probably lucasfilms single biggest financial failure of all time.
     
  14. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Solo was a Bob Iger mistake. Boba Fett and Kenobi were big hits, Andor and Ahsoka are expected to be not big hits. And Willow was always a gamble. Indy had bad marketing.
     
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  15. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Did we really even need an Indy 5?

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  16. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    No but its one of GL whishes
     
  17. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    No they haven't. Andor didn't underperform and got a whole bunch of award nominations, Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi had big audiences, even if their reception was mixed. And in the case of Ahsoka it is really impossible to say yet, as the numbers take a while to come in. It certainly didn't have bad ones in the early going.
    Willow was a follow-up to a niche movie from a few decades ago. No one expected it to be big, therefore it didn't really flop. Solo came in way below expectations, and Indy V very much flopped, that's basically it.

    There is also a difference between someone judging the quality ("Nothing been bad under her, just mixed or good") and judging the financial success of a project. Something can be pretty good and never see any success, just like a project can be bad and still make plenty of money.

    And no, they didn't "literally stop making movies" because of Solo. If they had, we wouldn't have seen an announcement of movies which were then halted again due to production issues. They took a break, which also coincided in part with covid interrupting all productions big time, and then they went on with new projects. Some of which hit issues, some were delayed - like almost everything in Hollywood - due to a whole list of circumstances no one could have forseen.

    We don't "need" any movie at all. That's a weird argument to make. Some people were interested in making it, therefore they made it. That's how movie-production works.
     
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  18. PolymerSkywalker

    PolymerSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yea they did stop making movies. The last Disney Star Wars movie was 2019 and that was almost 4 years ago. Before then there was a movie every single year.

    2015 = TFA
    2016 = Rogue One
    2017 = TLJ
    2018 = Solo
    2019 = TROS
    2020 = nope
    2021 = nope
    2022 = nope
    2013 = nope
    2024 = nope

    How can you say Disney didn’t stop making Star Wars movies? TLJ backlash, Solo flopping, and then TROS underperformed. They freaked out and stopped making Star Wars movies.
     
  19. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    What evidence do you have that they freaked out? Aside from a bunch of YouTube videos claiming they did.
     
  20. Django211

    Django211 Force Ghost star 4

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    Boy that’s weird all of the sudden something in 2020 seemed to have stopped all the films. Wonder what that was, I guess we’ll never know.
     
  21. PolymerSkywalker

    PolymerSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So let me understand your logic. They were making SW movies year after year like clockwork and the pandemic hits and they don’t make a movie in 4 years? Why have other franchises not suffered this same fate? How many Marvel movies have launched since 2019?
     
  22. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Yet they have already officially announced three new movies and will begin production on them after all these strikes wrap up.

    Your argument doesn't hold up very well when it has only been four years since the last movie and there was also a pandemic during that time that crippled the entertainment industry.

    And it also isn't like they were in the middle of a series of movies and just stopped. They had wrapped up the trilogy they were doing and were needing to plan something new out.
     
  23. Django211

    Django211 Force Ghost star 4

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    Don’t forget Disney+ launched in late 2019 as did The Mandalorian. Since 2021 Lucasfilm has put out streaming shows every year since. Whatever the quality Star Wars fans still tune in to watch. Right now Star Wars & Marvel series are being used as the vehicle to drive Disney+ viewership.

    It’s quite common for studios to put projects on the back burner, for scripts to go into development hell or to get outright cancelled. This isn’t unique to Lucasfilm.
     
  24. PolymerSkywalker

    PolymerSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So series with declining viewership on a platform that loses money is the hill you want to die on about KK being an incredible studio head?

    With complete disregard to Indy 5 (her pet project) that lost Disney around $300 M dollars. Willow was so bad they chose to take a tax write down and remove it from the platform.

    Mind if I ask some simple questions? Is Lucasfilm worth more today vs 4 years ago? Isn’t that the real measure of a leader, if you can improve what your organization’s value?
     
  25. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    With all the additional content they now have yes it is worth more (and how come you chose just four years ago instead when Kathleen Kennedy took over). How much things are financially worth isn't based on what some people on the Internet with far too much time on their hands think.

    And declining viewership? Based on what? You do realize it is normal for viewership to decline a bit over once the novelty of it wears off. Each Star Wars series they put out though is still one of the most highly viewed shows on the entire platform. There is a reason these YouTubers are only comparing viewership to other Star Wars shows and not other things on the platform.
     
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