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Lit A/V Kotor? remake? is? probably? (not?) happening?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jid123Sheeve, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 6

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    Wouldn't it just cause a ton of confusion if they did the remake, only to say "oh this isn't canon"?
     
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  2. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    No because the only people who care are the ones actively discussing its canonicity already.

    And it’s academic at the moment because they easily have 5+ years to sort it out with a new developer.

    Edit: To elaborate a little on my first point - people play Spider-Man games and Batman games and never get tripped up when they contradict each other or the film versions or the cartoons or whatever. Literally no other licensed property follows “canonicity” rules, and many Star Wars games didn’t despite what Wookieepedia will tell you. The majority of players of some future KotOR remake would neither notice nor be bothered, and the ones that did will look it up because they’re already invested over and above casual interest. It’s a non-issue.
     
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  3. Ginkasa

    Ginkasa Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    "Remake" can mean a lot of different things. It can mean just bringing the existing game up to modern visual standards (although this is also referred to as a "remaster"), but it can also mean taking the existing concept and creating a new, modern game utilizing the concept. My understanding was that this KotOR remake was going to be essentially a new game.

    If the game stands alone I don't think it would matter, but if they release a KotOR remake and use Revan in a prominent (i.e. film or TV) canonical way I do think there would be room for confusion among casual audiences if they contradicted each other. KotOR had a pretty big impact outside of the "hardcore" fanbase, so if the mass audience plays the modern KotOR remake and then watches, I dunno, the Disney+ Old Republic original movie or whatever I expect there'd be some confusion and questions asked. I can see the Polygon article explaining it now. Is that really an "issue"? I dunno, but I think it would be there.
     
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  4. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This is still happening though
     
  5. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Force Ghost star 5

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  6. Gerak

    Gerak Jedi Knight star 1

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    Would it? Most people are interested in a game or piece of media based on the story, writing quality, and/or gameplay. I don't get the impression that even the current holders of SW's IP care about canon that much.
     
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  7. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    On a different note, waiting was a good call on K2. It's on offer for £10.50 on Switch until 19 Aug.
     
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  8. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Uh, considering how virulently you hated KOTOR 1's gameplay, why are you bothering? There's plenty of story playthroughs available on Youtube.
     
  9. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Different developer. Probably some different cheats too. Plus I really liked the first game outside of its incomorehensible combat system.

    Most of the time that combat was still OK too. It was only on certain fights it fell apart badly.
     
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  10. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There is no level cap in 2 and you get force powers from level 1. So you can just level up massively. The last fights are not a threat.
     
  11. Lord Sith Harloxzz

    Lord Sith Harloxzz Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe they want this game to fit in the New Canon and that is why they delayed it but if that is the case is not longer a Remake but a Reboot
     
  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    It can be both.

    But with the developers, pre-axe, talking of 2025 as a realistic release date, it'll be some time before we know how this looks at all.
     
  13. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Master star 4

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    Bastila statue from Gentle Giant coming in 2023 - from Remake maybe?
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  14. Jedi Knight88

    Jedi Knight88 Jedi Master star 4

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    From what I understand the company doing the remake fired their writer and art director but they said it could come out in 2025
     
  15. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Master star 4

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    There are rumors that KotOR was transferred to another studio.

    Supposedly it was Design Director and Art Director.

    If we look at Aspyr's currently open positions that mention KoTOR remake:
    - Creative Director
    - AI Engineer
    - Graphics Engineer
    - Lead Software Engineer - Unreal Engine
    - Senior Performance Engineer
    - Senior Software Engineer - Unreal Engine
     
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  16. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Master star 4

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  17. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Saber are also making Space Marine 2.

    Will be interesting to see how they handle KOTOR as well.
     
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  18. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Master star 4

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    Another take on KotOR remake problems. The author of the video supposedly spoke/is in contact with some Remake devs. According to him Lucasfilm loved the remake but Sony did not as they expected something more like God of War or Ghost of Tsushima. Supposedly gameplay wise Aspyr made it more like Dragon Age Inquisition or FF7 Remake.
     
  19. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    That sounds rather odd though, doesn't it?
    It's a Lucasfilm property, they are calling the shots, not Sony. Sony may offer an opinion, but it would never overrule Lucasfilm. If Lucasfilm loved it, no changes would be coming, unless Embracer thought the current development was unsustainable.
     
  20. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think someone might be telling them more opinion rather than facts.
     
  21. Gerak

    Gerak Jedi Knight star 1

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    Hopefully Saber is allowed to prioritize Space Marines 2 over KOTOR. The first game was a gem with better writing than you'd expect for a Warhammer game, probably on the same tier as Gothic Armada 2 in terms of writing quality.

    Wonder what's going on at Aspyr though.
     
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  22. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think it was really good, up there with the the OG Dawn of War (and dawn of War 2s) and Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2. Though I also like the writing in Total War Warhammer.

    I also hope Space Marine 2 is the priority, I don't see a remake of KOTOR as something we need now or even in the near future.
     
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  23. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    It also had Mark Strong doing the voice for the lead character too.
     
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  24. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Knight star 3

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    I get a kick out of YouTubers who have to start off their videos by saying what they have gotten correct in the past.
     
  25. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    All things being equal, and owing to the believability of the narratives they aren't, I would still defer to Jason "Literally employed by a major business news outlet because of his established reputation for getting the inside story on game development" Schreier over a Star Wars focused YouTube clickbait channel.
     
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