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Lit A/V Kotor? remake? is? probably? (not?) happening?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jid123Sheeve, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    It'll probably still be a while before we hear anything, but Saber Interactive getting away from Embracer is a good first move.
     
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  2. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    We need Drew Karpyshyn and Chris Avellone if KOTOR Remake is made
     
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  3. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Isnt one of them been revealed to be toxic
     
  4. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    I heard something about Chris, but it never went anywhere, so I am disinclined to believe it (as much as I do not like him).
     
  5. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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  6. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, I don't recall anyone saying anything about Karps. Only flack about the Darth Bane trilogy. I've seen him present a couple of times at conventions, and he seems like someone who honestly cares about Star Wars (not just his own stuff, but everything, as if he were fan and not a writer/producer), so I hope he stays on.
     
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  7. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I wasn't happy with Karpyshyn's Revan novel.
     
  8. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    Maybe he was forced into connecting KOTOR with SWTOR similar to how Luceno was forced into integrating TCW elements into the Darth Plagueis novel
     
  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I think he was hired for this express purpose. These aren’t things where the author is forced to do anything. Lucasfilm approaches the author with a general idea so for Revan it was probably simply bridging the gap between KOTOR 2 and SWTOR. The author does the rest. For bigger companies like this it rarely works the other way around if ever (author approaching Lucasfilm with an idea) it’s not like authors are just hired to write a Star Wars book and can do whatever. They need to fit the story in certain parameters.
     
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  10. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Yeah, they approached the person who felt an authorial ownership over Revan to connect the dots from KOTOR to KOTOR2 to SWTOR. Especially because he had been making Revan references in the Bane trilogy.

    Even if he pitched the idea of a Revan novel, LFL would have to say "well, it's got to fit with the rest of the era so..." Because Drew couldn't just ignore KOTOR2 and certainly not SWTOR.
     
  11. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    KOTOR 2 did happen in the timeline, it just wasn't so important anymore thanks to the retcons that SWTOR caused i also didn't really like what SWTOR did to Revan and the Exile but i accept now SWTOR as canon in the EU but if the Remake is made i hope they ignore SWTOR or at least change some aspects of Vitiate and the Sith Empire
     
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  12. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Well personally i feel Karpyshyn's Revan novel is very true to the character and his story arc, as well as exploring the world of the Sith Empire, he also wrote the original KOTOR storyline, and overall is very familiar with the Old Republic Era's lore and feel, the one aspect where i heavily criticize him is diminishing KOTOR II's importance in many ways, but that is not a fault that will come into play here if he gets involved, i feel no one understands KOTOR I and Revan better than Karpyshyn (and the critiques for how different Revan is in the novel from what people imagine him to be proves this).
     
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  13. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    If I recall correctly he also helped with the SWTOR Jedi Knight Story.
     
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  14. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Force Ghost star 4

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    Makes sense considering that storyline felt the closest we'll ever get to a "true" KotOR III
     
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  15. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    Revan did feel like the same character but Meetra was turned into a random Jedi in a Revan sidekick almost being a Revan padawan and both characters were nerfed in power level and both KOTOR games are now less important because the Vitiate Sith Empire were the true Villains and are more powerful than the Sith of KOTOR since Darth Scourge defeats Meetra Surik like if she was nothing what SWTOR did to KOTOR it reminds me of what Disney ST did to Luke, Han and Leia and the OT era but at least i forgive SWTOR now because it's a fun game for me
     
  16. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    That is a common criticism but in the book i never got that impression, we see her being strategic, posing as a smuggler to learn what she can about the Sith, hell she even bargains at one point, she felt like a real KOTOR protagonist i could even imagine the dialogue choices lol, but also i never felt she was a sidekick she rescued Revan and her relationship with Scourge was that of equals/uneasy allies, the only thing is that Revan is more powerful than her by the end of the book given how easily he defeated Nyriss and how well he did against the Emperor, but that makes sense as Malak was always more powerful than Sion, Nihilus and Traya, also this Revan had the knowledge and power of both of his lives (before and after his mind was erased).

    She and Revan had a close connection but i never felt it diminished Meetra at least not in the book, the way Scourge talks of her during SWTOR does indicate that (when he says "she was his student again"), but that isn't in the book, so it's just Scourge's distorted perspective.

    I never got the sense that they were nerfed, if anything it made Revan a lot more powerful than he looks in both KOTOR and SWTOR, being able to briefly contend with the Emperor and almost defeat him, Meetra is consistent with how strong she was in KOTOR II power-wise, and Scourge only managed to kill her like that because he caught her off-guard, he didin't actually defeat her in a fight, it's just like when Vader takes Palpatine by suprise in Episode VI for exampl

    The Sith Empire being the bigger threat and more powerful than the Sith of the KOTOR games was something that was established in the KOTOR games themselves, with the many allusions to the "True Sith" (which ended up being Vitiate's Sith Empire) so it's not going against what the games set up.

    The one aspect i feel it didin't potray KOTOR II's events with the importance they have is when they summarize the plot of the game and it's all wrong, and Meetra's status as a wound in the Force never gets mentioned or her ability to form connections that empower both sides used in a significant way especially when she had a close bond with Revan, they could have used that aspect of her during their fight with Vitiate, in general KOTOR II seems less galaxy-changing than KOTOR I in the novel, but still i disagree with your specific criticisms.
     
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  17. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    Kinda crazy how KOTOR games are still selling like if those games were new i want to get KOTOR 1 and 2 for Switch to replay them
     
  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I know that when EA was promoting the game they said it was basically KOTOR III-IX, but the Jedi Knight storyline was the only one which truly felt like a successor. And I say that to no disrespect to the others. Inquistor was my favorite
     
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  19. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    KOTOR 2 on the switch isn’t very good apparently.
     
  20. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I still have my original discs, I have no problem putting them in the Series X
     
  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yea it’s just the switch port that’s bad
     
  22. Ginkasa

    Ginkasa Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    To my knowledge, the Switch port isn't worse than any other particular version. Its just not better which is disappointing for a 20 year old game. And it got some bad press as well because it was originally supposed to get a DLC package with the lost content mod. This was a big selling point and would have made the Switch version the best, but that DLC ended up never coming out and people were (rightfully) upset about it.
     
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  23. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Aspyr also lied about adding content to it. They are just not good at making games it seems.
     
  24. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Padawan star 3

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    I want to play in portable mode i dont want to pay for the mobile versions
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Ironically that’s how I first played them on mobile