ST Kylo Ren/Adam Driver Discussion Thread

Oh, here we go. Poor Kylo, people expected things of him. He did have privilege, he’s the son of a war hero and a Princess-Senator-war hero and that’s why his whole “I want power” makes no sense - he has it.

Frankly, I detest the character and I’m happy to say it over and over.

They cast Driver as the bad guy and the good guy at once, a play on Anakin but in reverse and when it didn’t work for those of us who don’t find Kylo anything but slime, they screamed as loud as Kylo about how we needed to let go of our heroes. The amount of pixels I’ve seen, from fans and “critics,” about poor Kylo and his awful parents and teacher, and how we shouldn’t meet our heroes and Luke wasn’t all that, that Han and Leia were always going to break up, that the New Republic had no chance, and on and on - this toxic stew of gaslighting that I am so happy to see has FINALLY blown up in their faces.

 

You're only saying that because you lack the context which to understand kylo tho not that he lacked anything he's motive was that he wanted to be he's own important person/character use better points here. It actually doses because kylo obviously knows that he connected toa girl especially in tfa than we know what it is in both tlj and tros

 

But by saying poor kylo you're just missing the point lol Kylo as a force user before the dark too him seemed to be really doing great but the darkside had been tempting him for a while but never really gave only just nods and be annoyed nothing more. By saying he wants power you throw out any context and it just seems more like a narrative than an actually good point

 

The movies give no context.

 

Okay then where lol because it seems again that you completely are ignoring information that works for your point.

 

Then give those examples of no context lol thats what i asked. And this really doesn't say no its just a tangent too me, again ignore context/information. And? this again is isn't really a good point im sorry lol

 

You read my posts. What I was talking about was all there.

 

No. I'm pointing to what's literally in the movies and it's not developed to be that that drives him to villainy.

 

Then what quotes than if you're only going to just say the movies themselves than well that's not good enough for me. Here's examples from the movie that works for my points. For one he's interactions with snoke its very much he feels like he's under the show of snoke. Another point is how he feels about luke he thinks he doesn't care or that luke is in the way of him of being who he's and also how he views his father.

 

I asked ofr examples of where the movies had no context lol but i guess you can't

 

i wasn't demanding anything all i asked for was an example

 

i posted this you so clearly ignored and where is this so called no context in the movie that simply is not there

 

Im not i simply asked an example about what part of the movie doesn't have any context thats all i asked.

 

I never demand anything i asked for examples

 

what the hell did you just add or change this because clearly i did not say that

 

sorry then maybe i should okay because i wasn't even demanding anything. Please don't manipulate anything of what i said i only asked for examples as to what points of the movies had no context. He wasn't about power lol he just wanted to be a person again all these go back to him wanting to be his own person which is one of the central themes of the trilogy which i already eluded too.

 

yes