Legacy #1: Broken, part 1 (of 6) (release discussion)

Clearly he's not concerned with legality. It's a coup!

 

It's only a (successful) coup if the incumbent is killed or otherwise neutralized.

Roan Fel was not.

 

well with the next issue being 7 years in the future it will give some clues asto what has happened

 

Well, it is obvious that Krayt possesses the support of some, if not all, influential Moffs, which helps his position considerably. That being said, I'm sure you are going to see a big Imperial Civil War heating up with Fel vs. Krayt factions.

 

He was removed from office, his officials pledged loyalty to the man on the throne out of fear or other reasons, he's in control of the capital...so far the coup is successful. We don't know what Roan does in issue #2 yet, but thus far it's going very well. Not perfect, not complete, but well done.

 

It would appear that the Emperor is an inheritable position, but it's also possible the Moffs put the Fels there in the first place.

But again, legality doesn't seem to really enter into it. It's a coup attempt. Krayt and the Moffs betrayed Emperor Fel. Legal or not, it doesn't really matter so long as Krayt occupies the capital and the loyalty of important officials.

 

It's not as if plenty of history's Monarchs didn't come to the throne through the wrongful death of their predecessor and his or her whole line and the threat of continued violence. "Might makes Right" becomes "Divine Right" given a few hundred years of history...

 

Yeah, I remember those discussions now. I'm still of the opinion that the Byss-centric Empire and preceding one are separate entities, since they both existed simultaneously and had drastically different political/command structures. One was an Imperial dictatorship; the other, a theocracy.

Then again, I also see four total Republics: the pre-Ruusan one, the post-Ruusan one, the pre-Byss one, and the post-Byss one, even though most of the material insists on lumping the former two and latter two into the same entity.

Anyway, like you said, this has already been discussed elsewhere.

 

What I find interesting is that the population is so tame. This isn't Palpatine charming and manipulating his way into creating a throne. This is "Hi, I'm going to kill everyone in this room and claim the throne" and the military accepts this, as does the population. Even if there is a Civil War in issue 2, it means enough support for the blatant murder of the Emperor exists to pull this off. It rather hard to have a coup if the military promptly arrests you. This does not bode well for the stability of the Empire.

 

Well the Sith have been public for about 3 years before they make the coup, so the public probably knew just how many Sith there were, and what they were capable of.

 

Did they refer to Moffs? They seemed to merely indicate Moffs now loyal to Krayt. There's definitely something interesting going on here politically, but I'm not sure legality really matters here. How many coups here in the real world occur by merely ousting the government and commanding enough forces to make sure they don't come back? Legitimacy is not in question here, really, just practicality. Even if Krayt killed Fel, by your definition the coup wouldn't be successful because Fel has an heir - Marasiah is next in line to the throne. So long as the Fels hold no power, and Krayt wields enough to keep things under control until things settle down, the throne is whatever Krayt says it is. It's a government take over.

 

Well that'd be kind of boring to show wouldn't it? The Sith still rule the galaxy in issue #2. Marasiah is on the run. Give Krayt a little slack: his entire scene couldn't have been more than ten minutes, and it was clearly intended to show us that Krayt had wrested power. Let him have his little nap for his health problem, and then he's got the whole rest of the day to have the Moffs start pushing people around.

 

Yes, and Order 66 showed us what happens to Force-users vs the galaxy. The Jedi Order had 10,000 at the time of TPM, iirc. There are over 1,000,000 members worlds of the Republic at that time. So if the Empire's population really wants to get rid of the Sith, they've more than got the numbers to. But apparently neither the population nor the military cares enough about the attempted murder of their Emperor to do anything.

 

Well, this all depends on how Krayt plays it. He did kill a body double of Emperor Fel. As far as the general public of the Galaxy are concerned, they can be told whatever Krayt wants them to be told, as they are far enough removed that they will only recieve the news the Empire wants to get out. They can say he killed Fel or that he died in an accident and show Roan Fel's double's body as evidence, and even manipulate things to make it seem that Krayt was placed on the throne leagally. Should the real Fel appear and attempt to prove them wrong, they can claim that it is he that is the fake and the work of Vongist or Pro-Alliance agents attempting to stir up disent against the Government.

 

You're forgetting two things:
1) The Jedi went up against greater forces, whereas the Sith here are the greater forces. If the Sith are in control of the government and the military, the rest of the galaxy can "bring it on" so to speak. We also don't know what the Sith numbers are at this time.
2) The Jedi were far less likely than the Sith to eliminate their enemies with extreme prejudice.

 

1) The Jedi had to be tricked and betrayed for Order 66 to work. I still don't understand how the Sith ended up in control of the government or military. Is there no free press or even a rumormill? Does the galaxy have such a short memory? "Hi, we're the Sith, we going to take over now, don't worry, we're not as bad as that Palpatine fellow." Does no one remember the Clone Wars, the Galactic Civil War, Alderaan, the massive destruction as Palpatine's Empire self-destructed? And if the Sith have anywhere near the numbers of the Jedi Order of TPM, I'm dropping this comic right now, cause the writers didn't do their research. There are over 1 million worldslarge enough and important enough to have been members of the Republic. Even the Jedi never had the numbers to touch most of them except in emergencies when they were needed, since there was only 1 Jedi per 100 member worlds, not counting all the other planets and outposts.

2) Quite true, and this has served them well. They have helped maintain peace, order, and justice without an iron fist for thousands of years in the Old Republic.

 

Well, obviously, somebody thought the Empire was a good idea or no one would have gone along with it, although I agree with you that there cannot be more numerous than Jedi in the Old Republic.

 

okay am getting a bit confused here.....

Old Republic (TotJ era)
Republic (Clone Wars era)
New Republic (after RotJ era)

or is Old Republic the Clone Wars era republic? what is the TotJ republic then?

 

The "Old Republic" is the Republic that has existed from 25,000 BBY - 19 BBY (Ruusan Reformation Notwithstanding)


It is all one republic, but the Pre-Empire republic is called "Old" to differentiate between it and the new.

 

The Sith control the inner council that was meeting with Fel. That council controls everyone who controls everyone else.

Yeah, but it put them at a disadvantage when trying to defend themselves against the people trying to kill them. With enough star destroyers under his - albeit indirect - command, Krayt can squash resistance.

 

ah true. the republic was never defeated by the sith....thanks for clearing that up