Legacy #21: Indomitable, part 2 (of 2) - The conclusion of a shocking two-part tale! INDOMNICTABLE!

True, Stazi may have been a bit trigger happy, but Stazi probably doesn't have a high opinion of Imperials anyway, Fel or Krayt ones. They defeated the GA and then the Sith took over, and depending on how much experience Stazi might have had with Jedi or Force people, he just might not trust Fel as he's also an Imperial Knight. So, any sign of treachery is more than enough reason to be hostile. And its a very dangerous galaxy, so better to shoot first and ask questions later. Especially with how dire Stazi's situation sounds.

And retreating isn't that bad of an idea, especially when the alternative is stay and fight and most likely die. Better to live and fight another day, as the saying goes. If Pellaeon hadn't retreated, then the New Republic might've just gone on and annexed what was left of the Empire. At least with a formal treaty, the Remnant could pull itself together enough for the Yuuzhan Vong War and afterwards. Otherwise, any random ambitious Fleet Admiral could have pulled together a fleet and go for the glory of finally destroyer the Empire.

I do wonder how long the Pellaeon class Star Destroyer has been in service. There are tons of them, as we see various random Sith and Imperial Captains running around in them, just like Imperial-class Star Destroyers were common by Luke's time. It used to seem like Imperial Star Destroyers were only a decade or so old, but now after the prequels, we know the Imperator class came out just as the Clone Wars ended. And it took them a while to introduce the Imperial II-class, and even as late as LotF, over half a century later, Victory and Imperial class Star Destroyers are still in use in major battles, though the Super-class (or Dreadnoughts if we're being technical) and other huge warships are far more rare now, unfortunately. I just wish the Venator had seen more use, but oh well.

 

RE Stazi

He doesn't have all the info about Roan Fel that all of YOU do. So far as he knows, Fel was the head of state when the Empire attacked the GA. For all he knew, Fel was behind it. Fel losing his throne and going into exile simply means he was playing with fire -- the Sith. It would NOT imply, to Stazi, that Fel's hands were clean regarding the war.

Bovark's words could be seen as complimentary -- they were meant to be and to acknowledge what Stazi did. I'll tell you more about Stazi at some point (perhaps even in the two part story<g>). Point -- if he were not competent, if he was not what Bovark suggests, why would Fel want an alliance with him?

-- John

 

Thank you for the clarification, John. I was going to type a similar response to FTeik, but coming from your mouth carries a bit more weight to it.

It is important for we the fans to remember we know more about the "total" picture in Legacy than the characters do. We are able to see all scences, whereas a character is stuck in the place they are at.

Joking aside, John's point about Fel wanting an alliance is dead on. If Stazi were simply a incompetant leader or third rate fleet commander with little pestige, what use would a alliance with him be? Obviously Emperor Fel has a fairly high opinion of his skills to consider joining forces with the Alliance Remnant in efforts to defeat the Sith.

--Adm. Nick

 

Jello, you do realize that you are one fo the few Imperials that don't like Pellaeon.

I understand your reasons for disliking Pellaeon, but regardless of whether he was a "coward", his survive at all costs attitude kept Remnant alive long enough to reform into a Second Empire.

My point is that for better or worse, he is one of several reasons for the Second Empire. That fact is undeniable.

--Adm. Nick

 

You're sure it wasn't Daala's "SMASH ISD" attitude?

 

Yeah, Pellaeon's retreating and taking over the Empire saved it from the destruction it would have had, had it been left to crazy warlords like that much longer.

 

With due respect, Admiral --

I think Pellie achieved what could be achieved at that moment and salvaged what could be salvaged. And his actions during the Vong Invasion, his leadership of the Remnant, certainly gave cause for the Imperial forces to be seen in a more favorable light. I think any military mind would agree that retreat is preferable to decimation and, sometimes, is necessary. What he did made the Second Empire not only possible but viable. You may find that a questionable achievement depending on your feelings for the Second Empire. But he did win the respect of the galaxy eventually not only for himself but for the Remnant.

Regards

John

 

True, unless a people or race look at religion, honor, and death differently.

Japanese up until 1945, Spartans, and Nordic peoples for example.


Pellaeons major failure was at Endor. A plan failed and he couldn't fix it so he retreated. A situation I might add that he could have won. And I also don't think he was in total command anyway. Either way his skills as a commander are hurt. Pellaeon simply wasn't at attacker, he was to cautious.

 

Or Fel is really desperate.

Consider the following: After years of mobile guerilla-war the former emperor has retaken Bastion. Possibly a great achivement, but he also has dug himself into a hole. As he tells his minions Draco and Krieg before he sents them on their mission the Sith now know, where he is and that it is difficult to get more troops. And I never claimed Stazi to be incompetent. Like Ackbar he might be a competent commander, but as I said earlier that might not mean much as far as GFFA-commanders are concerned.

Maybe we should start an extra-topic on the performance of military commanders (haven't we done something like that in the past?).

 

Stazi is a Duros with a GUT... how often does that happen? He must be doing something right! And Draco-Krieg saved his gut that time. Stazi is appreciative.

 

A couple points.

The importance of Bastion cannot be overstated. While it does make his location "obvious", the fact remains the worlds defenses and whatever fleet units are loyal to him makes it a tough nut to crack. As Krayt himself has said, a direct assault on Bastion would cripple his Sith-loyal Imperial fleet forces.

As for Fel's insurgency being "focused" on him, he has one card up his sleeve that keeps his Loyalist insurrection alive- Marasiah. In his daughter lay the future hopes of the Empire.

In regards to what Admiral Stazi and the Alliance Remnant can offer to Fel, the advantages are simple. First off, each gains something from this deal. The Alliance, who most likely cannot afford to have its fleet in one place for long, would have a safe harbor in the form of Bastion. A good point of resupply, strong enough to resist anything short of a full scale, climactic attack.

The Fel Loyalists, on the other hand, suddenly can afford to go on some limited offensives against the Sith. If Fel's forces attack, they can trust Stazi to keep his defenses at Bastion at full strength. If the Alliance is on the offensive, he can offer them a base of operations, a supply base, and limited aid.

The main problems I see in a Loyalist/Alliance coalition against the Sith is the aftermath of a victory. The main question would be who holds the "main galactic power", based from Coruscant. IMO, the best course of action (for both the Alliance and Fel) would be to give the GA Coruscant back, as well as giving captured worlds the option of rejoining the GA. This gesture alone would show the galaxy the nobility of Fel's actions, with the most likely end result being a strong, stable Imperial powerbase starting in the traditional Remnant borders and most likely being expanded by multiple sectors.

As I have said many times before, the key to galactic peace is a two power system. Let the democractic worlds reform a Galactic Alliance while letting the more authority/order driven worlds reform into a new Empire.

the kicker- have both be in a open and stable peace. If Coruscant and Bastion can maintain a peace, galactic peace is sure to follow.

--Adm. Nick

 

They might actually be better off placing Coruscant as neutral ground shared by both governments, with each having some of the Core so as to have access to it. Best way to make everyone happy, I think.

 

To be fair, Coruscant is the historic capital of galactic democracies. Besides, after 100 plus years I bet you the Empire has quite a bit of connection to Bastion.

--Adm. Nick

 

I regret to inform you, dear sir, that the Old Republic was categorically not a democracy

Well, it's a representative Republic, which is what most "democratic" states in today's world actually are.

 

The Legacy-empire is supposed to rule the majority of the galaxy, but it is incapable to conquer ONE planet (no matter how strong defended) - Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Well, Veed being head of the military might explain the problems the Sith-faction is facing (in that case I hope it is on purpose, but from what I've seen so far it is Calixte, who is the brain of the Despisable Duo).

 

ONE planet defended by all of Fel's fleet,while Darth Krayt must spread his forces thin in order to control the Galaxy

 

Just read Broken today. It was excellent. Such a fresh change to see friends talking harsh to each other, turning on each other, and the snappy and sharp lines -- Star Wars comics have for too long been goodie tooshoes long enough. The character designs are actually very good, more than good -- distinctive. Despised the full names, of course, especially when you see them thrice in two pages dammit, and Talon is walking around all but naked. Just a bra and knickers, really.

Her Vetter fight was nasty! I've not seen this in a comic before. Thank you! She slices a hand off, then stabs the thigh, and you actually got to see it. And finally splashes lighting into the head to kill. Gotham City would emerald envy at the gothic darkness of this comic.

It struck me whilst reading how lookalike Syn was to Vos . . . or will it be revealed he's a grandson, eh? Jedi hater discovers he's a latent Jedi himself?

Almost every ship design looks ridiculous, but that's overlookable. And for once in a million years it was great to see a confident Jedi, not the endless wimps. Shado's calm face . . . his calm poise and stance against Talon . . . his faceoff against the Impy Knights' bluster . . . his saberstaff. Ha.

Mission . . . Vao. How clever. That was good. Broken was an excellent start to the series!

 

Yaddayaddayadda.

Take one Star Destroyer from every sector. Or abandon control of a few planets (who don't have fleet-assets comparable to Fel) until FIM is crushed.

 

Sinrebirth:

Princess Marasiah may be divisive in regards to hardliner Imperials of the "First Empire" inclination, but she is a young, energetic, and brave individual. All factors give her the possibility of making a strong leader one day. And, unlike her father, we already know that she saw shame in working with the Sith, as she herslef says in one of the early issues. (Mine are all boxed away. I think it was 5 or 6)

Interesting. However, they need to launch offensives to gather enough resources to support their world. Bastion won't be able to support two fleets without a framework of worlds. Even if Gar Stazi has Alliance holdouts, he still needs the same things the Emperor does, even with Bastion.

And, the forces required to blockade the Bastion system are considerably less than those needed to attack it. The Sith could bottle up the system quite easily, considering the offensive power of Stazi and Fel is incredibly limited.

Which begs the question as to whether Fel or Stazi have any worlds under their control. For Fel, it is entirely possible that his powerbase on Bastion and in old Remnant Space means that many old Imperial worlds like Yaga Minor, Valc VII, or Muunilinst may in fact be openly supporting or covertly supplying him with resources.

As for the Alliance, we still don't know if all Alliance worlds were occupied by Sith/Imperial forces after the war or if they were left to their own devices, under the watchful eye of the Imperial Navy. However, the cover blurb for issue #13 states that portions of Alliance Space are not yet subdued by the Sith, so some major Alliance worlds may still be around. If a few key worlds like Mon Calamari, Sullust, or other remote worlds like Sluis Van and Contruum are still free, Stazi's remnant forces may have some scattered by operation supply chain.

The only way Bastion and Coruscant could maintain peace is by forming an alliance of equals. The Empire, when it joined the GA, was a weakened body. This war is simply the problems between the weakening of the GA and the strengthening of the Empire. Neither, without allies like the Sith, has the strength to destroy the other.

Even with the GA fighting a civil war, the Empire was still losing to the GA thanks to the Jedi. That's a fair point to remember.

A world needs making capital that lies between Coruscant and Bastion. Which is just as much a Core/Rim divide as a GA/Imperial divide. Only a few worlds have the potential to take this role, or the ability - the 'Coruscants' outside the Core - Denon, Contruum, Eriadu, perhaps Taris if it's recovered enough yet.

Neither Coruscant or Bastion should be the capital.

I agree that the Alliance and Empire should be allies, but Coruscant is and always has been a important symbol. Obviously I am biased towards the Alliance, but I truely do think that they have greater claim to Coruscant than the Empire does. The capital of the Old Republic, New Republic, and the Galactic Alliance needs to be where it always has been- Coruscant.

Jello:

You don't fool me. I know you are not the hugest fan of Pellaeon, but I have known you long enough to know that you often times take a far harder stance in your rhetorical fencing than you really feel.

Interestingly enough, however, you and John seem to agree on one point. You main issue with Pellaeon is his ability as a supreme commander of military forces. John on the other hand sees Pellaeon more as a political figure who saved the Empire from total destruction by the New Republic. I have a hunch that you can agree with that.

Pellaeon's connection to the new Empire is unmistakable. His actions, both polically and militarily, contributed to its eventual formation.

--Adm. Nick

 

And while all those Star Destroyers are gone, chaos will reign. All the pirate groups, random rebel groups (there's always a rebel group to any established galactic government) and perhaps even the GA Core Forces can do whatever they want. Perhaps even invade Coruscant? And that kind of fleet movement would be pretty obvious, so anyone smart could prepare their own plans with plenty of time.

Krayt could take Bastion. But it would probably cost so many Star Destroyers and resources that the galaxy might go back to anarchy with no strong hand to enforce order. And even if Bastion fell, there is still no guarantee that he could catch Roan Fel. Planetary invasions are always messy and chaotic.

So, basically, taking Bastion would probably be more trouble than its worth. And as its been mentioned, Fel is now stuck in one place, so its a bit of a trade-off, having a solid base like Bastion.

And yeah, Coruscant is galactic center. Unless one has Coruscant, a government doesn't really rule the galaxy.