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Senate Let's Talk: Feminism

Discussion in 'Community' started by blubeast1237, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Zapdos

    Zapdos Force Ghost star 5

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    can we all just agree to not read or respond to this?
     
  2. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost star 5

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  3. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    moviefans stop.
     
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  4. dp4m

    dp4m Also a Narc star 10

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    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  5. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    can we just admit that this was what we were waiting for from post #1?
     
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  6. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    The anticipation was so palpable I'm surprised nobody made a Rocky Horror reference.
     
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  7. dp4m

    dp4m Also a Narc star 10

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    ... Ramza.
     
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Alright Vivec, you're up. If you disappoint us, the shame will crush you for the rest of your life.
     
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  9. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    I'm sorry, I'm just reeling from the inevitable let down that occurs when the reality doesn't live up to the expectation.
     
  10. dp4m

    dp4m Also a Narc star 10

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    So you're saying you didn't enjoy the antici...






    ... pation?
     
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  11. Penguinator

    Penguinator Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    So you're all for feminism provided it's on your own male-centric terms.
     
  12. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    [​IMG]
     
  13. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Punching Nazis in Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we put all of them there? [/obligatory man-hating post]
     
  14. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Budget limitations
     
  15. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    The way I interpret what he's saying is that there is a great deal of anger and thus radicalization to be found both in the rejection of patriarchy as well as the pushback against feminism. This becomes a negative cycle, not helping achieve true equality.

    At least, that's my interpretation.
     
  16. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Yeah except the man-hating feminist is a cultural myth propagated by right wing radio and other conservative elements. There's a reason Rush Limbaugh is the one who coined the term "feminazi."
     
  17. Lord Chazza

    Lord Chazza Jedi Master star 4

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    What irritates me about what he's saying is that his entire post is one massive assertion with nothing to back it up. I'm fine with people presenting their viewpoints but when viewpoints are presented as facts it makes me feel like this:

    [​IMG]

    Why can't this:
    Be this:
    Or, if you're determined to go with the former, then provide some evidence in the way of links to sources!
     
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  18. blubeast1237

    blubeast1237 Jedi Master star 5

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    So the problem, I think, with assuming that treating everyone equal is the fact that the standard for equality is a male standard;not a unisex sex standard. Women shouldn't be treated as equal to men, they should be treated equal to a human being standard and with the respect as a human being and so should everyone. This is kind of echoed in relational feminist theory.

    And there should be an anti-patriarchy attitude with the intent to bring it down. Its a bad system. Or, maybe its not, but I call systems bad when they are, by creation, purposed to serve only a certain group of people and everyone else is seen as an exception. But I also agree that things should be constantly reevaluated, but the current setup being what it is, I don't see a great deal of reason for a power feminist to change that mindset.

    As far as moviefan's post go, there's not much substance to what he's saying so... maybe we can just overlook it?
     
  19. Lord Chazza

    Lord Chazza Jedi Master star 4

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    That makes no sense whatsoever to me. Your 'unisex sex standard' has to be set to something. Now if we are going to assume that women are treated worse by society than men then presumably it makes sense for Feminists to aim to be treated the same as men, hence the word equality.
     
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  20. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick Game Host - SfC Part VI BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Exactly! It's one thing to fake all the moon landings in Burbank, but to send all of the men there? There's no way the city can pay for that.
     
  21. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Punching Nazis in Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That's because men control the budgets! PATRIARCHY! :_|

    His posts in a nutshell, and good idea.
     
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  22. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    you're doing that thing where you think the definition of feminist excludes any man-hating, but you don't say so explicitly. it's misleading.
     
  23. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    No, I'm doing that thing where I recognize a bald-faced attempt to poison the discourse utilizing a lazy equating of anti-status quo with anti-male by people who can't be arsed to read the theories they're attacking.
     
  24. Penguinator

    Penguinator Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    In short, pro-female isn't necessarily anti-male. There's already a term for people who hate men, and that term doesn't start with an "f" and end with "eminist."
     
  25. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    i understand. you really are saying that there are no man-hating feminists. ok... i mean, a quick google search disproves that, but whatever...