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Lit Lostworlds & Lost Words: Cancelled Media

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Darth Fandom, Apr 29, 2020.

  1. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This May the 4th (be with you!), I found myself thinking of this book again, and wanted to ask, is there any way to get SOME of the other art pieces revealed, particularly for characters that have either no good depiction (Onimi) or none period (Lomi Plo). I totally understand if not as I'm no expert in copyright stuff, but I though I'd ask. I know you can't dump the entire book, of course, but I'd hate for at least a few of the art pieces that meet that description to go unseen.
     
  2. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The concept art for Darth Krayt makes me kind of glad it didn't happen - assuming that they'd gone in that direction. The Vong armour is pretty important to his story in Legacy, him not having it during the events of the game would have been messy.
     
  3. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Kind of same with Maul resurrecting AGAIN but this time 100 years after the movies, that would have been controversial for sure.
     
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  4. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    I think the plan was either a clone or he gets frozen for 100 years (just when the world needed him most he vanished).
     
  5. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    I really like the idea that Maul got shoved into a carbonite block and stored at Mount Tantiss, only for the Sith to release him a long while later as if he’s some twisted demonic version of Buck Rogers.
     
  6. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe that was what Palpatine meant during TCW in the Legends continuity, if you don't count Son of Dathomir in that canon, he could have frozen Maul and stored him for later, in case he needed a servant for a dire situation, thus he ended up frozen for 100 years.

    Which ties to something i've been wondering for a time, if being frozen in carbonite for some periods of time (like a year with Han or 5 years with the KOTFE protagonist) has negative effects like some memory loss and blindness, what sort of effects would 100 years in there would have? It's partially random chance that you get bad after-effects (after all Nok Drayen didin't have much of those), but if you do get them, how much worse do they get with time?

    Also, wasn't Mount Tantiss destroyed? If Maul was stored there he would get desintegrated as well
     
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  7. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Eh he could be in a lower vault.

    But to the rest of it that is my general thought, Palpatine put him somewhere and never came back then he gets woken up by Talon and stuff happens.
     
  8. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All you need is "Somehow... Maul has returned." "Dark science, cloning. Secrets only the Sith knew."
     
  9. Darth Fandom

    Darth Fandom Jedi Knight star 1

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    Well, the simple answer is George Lucas' strange attraction to Darth Talon. I mean didn't he want Leia to be a Dark Jedi or something in TFU I?
     
  10. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah I mean that is what they did for a billion dollar movie so it's like we could do better.

    I mean she does have a unique look and it's not like he could ruin her personality.
     
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  11. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    If we are to take the (IMO) absurd story of the Maul game seriously, here's my interpretation.

    -The game would be set during the Sith-Imperial War. This way we can still have him fight Krayt without messing with Legacy's plot. Maul could even kill Krayt, but it would have to be something easily covered up to keep Krayt's quasi-immortality secret.
    -Maul could be on the Galactic Alliance side of the war, but him fighting the Mandalorians could be problematic. Perhaps not all Mandos fought for the GA, or maybe Maul switches sides, i.e. Starkiller.
    -The Darth Talon of the game would be an earlier holder of the title, i.e. Darth Wyyrlock. The Talon we're familiar with could be her daughter.
    -Hot take, but I don't know if we have to take the aesthetic differences at face value. Since it was mostly concept art, the final product may have been much more in line with the comics.
    -The Maul of the game was reportedly either a clone or a descendant. Perhaps the original Maul or one of his apprentices was an early member of the One Sith.
     
  12. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    They do have the same voice.
     
  13. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    I like this. My interpretation is similar in some ways, but I do differ on some key ideas.
    -Personally, I would set the Maul game post-Legacy Vol 1 and either concurrent with or after Legacy Vol 2. I'd call this era the "Sith Warlord era" parallel to the Imperial Warlord era.
    -While the Sith Emperor could be Darth Krayt returned, I think the concept art could just as easily be applied to Darth Nihl. They've got the same shoulder pad spike motif, and similar girdles.
    -One way to explain the Mandalorian problem could be that the game is mostly set in Firefist (Darth Nihl connection, plus it's a prime candidate for the "undisclosed location" that Nihl called a retreat to). The present Mandalorians that Maul fights could be descendants of Fenn Shysa's crew that went to assist in the Nagai-Tof War; almost like a Legio IX Hispana of Mandalorians under Nagai employ.
    -I love the idea that Maul at first is with the Galactic Alliance, or at least is uneasily allied with them. I sort of think that if he's indeed the original Maul stored away by Sidious, then Talon should be the one to find and awaken him in rebellion against Nihl and the One Sith.

    Any further thoughts? The Maul project might be my favorite Lostworld.
     
  14. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    I've always figured Nihl and his minions would head for Firefist. And I definitely like the idea of the Mandalorian Protectors settling in Firefist. It's pretty odd how they just disappear not long after the Marvel comics. Maybe there could be a pre-existing Mandalorian culture in Firefist, thanks to refugees from the Neo-Crusader's defeat.
     
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  15. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    I don’t have my copy of Shadows of Mindor nearby, but I know that Fenn Shysa and his Mandalorians show up there. Does anyone know if it is stated if they had already been to Firefist by then, or if anything on the Nagai and Tof are brought up?
     
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  16. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Additional idea:
    If Battle of the Sith Lords takes place late-Imperial Civil War/post-Civil War, perhaps Darth Wredd could've met Maul. Unfortunately, I don't think there's room for Wredd to have literally been Maul's apprentice, but any bit of teaching could aid Wredd's claim to the Baneite mantle.
     
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  17. Lord Sith Harloxzz

    Lord Sith Harloxzz Jedi Master star 4

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    What if Maul son or clone is connected with Galen Marek Clones and Maulkiller?
     
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  18. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Would make sense. Starkiller being cloned seems like a big deal in-universe. Was a connection ever drawn between TFU II, Dark Empire, the Thrawn Trilogy, etc?
     
  19. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Maybe not his first master but he could have an influence on him at any rate.
     
  20. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Let's assume Starkiller becomes the basis for successful cloning attempts. The earlier attempts at cloning Maul would involve Starkiller's genes, creating some sort of Rei Ayanami-esque hybrid of Maul and Starkiller. Later attempts would be closer to the real deal. The Maul from Resurrection would be one such example. Perhaps the Maul cloning project was ordered by Palpatine, and carried out by the Prophets of the Dark Side. Eventually the One Sith would inherit the project.

    Edit: Maybe the sole purpose of the One Sith's Maul clone was as a candidate for a Sith Trooper prime clone. Obviously Maul goes rogue, and that idea gets scrapped.
     
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  21. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Seems Lostworlds are back in vogue now... some websites reported another lost world or at least concept Dark Horse intended to publish before it apparently didn't. A Huttslayer Leia story that may or may not have went beyond the concept stage with several people really liking it before it got axed. If I find the link again I will post it.
     
  22. Darth Fandom

    Darth Fandom Jedi Knight star 1

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    Awesome! That sounds very interesting. I'd love to see it if you can find the link.
     
  23. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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  24. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe when the Empire loses Kashyyyk they take as many slaves with them as they can offworld. The comic would take place directly after the Liberation of Kashyyyk.
     
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  25. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Unfortunately it seems we'll have to add Rangers of the New Republic to the apocrypha pile. If anything I really hope we learn more about what we could've gotten in the future.