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Lit Books LOTF - First Time Read Thread - No spoilers post-Invincible

Discussion in 'Literature' started by OutsiderJediSam, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Lowie, disappears and does nothing (despite you know being Jaina's close friend and wingmate).
    Tenel Ka, Queen Mother of Hapes and well...boring.
    Alema Rar, turned to the dark side and went mad.
    Tesar, disappears and does nothing as well.
     
  2. Reepicheep775

    Reepicheep775 Jedi Master star 4

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    It's been almost a decade since I read those books, so... no comment. That's how I felt at the time. *shrugs*
     
  3. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Am I the only one who ships Jacen/Alema...if Tenel Ka or Danni weren’t options.

    Anyways, Tenel Ka doesn’t do much of anything post LOTF because...she’s got a government to run and Allana is with her grandparents.

    Alema dies in the second half of LOTF.

    Lowbacca and Tesar are both quaternary characters and were never developed beyond that.

    I wish they did more with Cilghal and the Solusars.
     
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  4. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    I though Cilghal was going to be a big character in fotJ.
     
  5. Riv_Shiel

    Riv_Shiel Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe it is time to take "No spoilers post-Invincible" out of the thread title?
     
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  6. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We should make an all purpose Denningverse or post NJO series discussion thread.

    @Sinrebirth?
     
  7. Destiny975

    Destiny975 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Why not just turn this thread into that?
     
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  8. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I tagged a moderator for that reason.
     
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  9. Destiny975

    Destiny975 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Sorry, I'm kind of new to this.
     
  10. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It’s all fine, forum culture and procedure takes time to acclimate to.
     
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  11. adalmentia

    adalmentia Jedi Knight star 1

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    Denning killed Lusa and Lyric offscreen
    And he obviously killed Anakin
    Apart from SbS, I don't remember any other NJO books that killed so many members of the next generation
     
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  12. adalmentia

    adalmentia Jedi Knight star 1

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    The Solusars were so underused
     
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  13. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Oh yeah, Kam was Lukes first Jedi offsider.

    Then Tionne just get torn up in inferno. It is disgusting.

    Did they have kids?
     
  14. Destiny975

    Destiny975 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don't think so.
    Edit: I checked wookiepedia. They don't have kids.
     
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  15. adalmentia

    adalmentia Jedi Knight star 1

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    Kam was also linked to the Old Jedi Order and he escaped the purge
    There was quite a bit of potential there
     
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  16. adalmentia

    adalmentia Jedi Knight star 1

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    They adopted Tahiri in my headcanon
     
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  17. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    shame, could have been a new character or two. But that goes aginst the Denningverse ideas 'new is bad'.
     
  18. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Weird thing-the denningverse really doesn’t spend as much time on the non Skysolo Jedi as even the NJO and Bantam did. Raynar is literally in the basement until late FOTJ, and then a bunch of young Jedi go crazy and get put in carbonite.

    Maybe they just really lacked imagination or they were super lazy when it came to developing characters and plots.
     
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  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I mean SBS reintroduced the entire YJK cast...
     
  20. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah and killed Lusa offscreen, had her quasi boyfriend Raynar make out with another girl who was also killed in this book without doing anything substancial. And then put Raynar himself a on a very long bus trip he only really fully returned from in FotJ(in that only then he was a Jedi again who could go out on missions and stuff).

    So in a sense Denning killed/removed like a third of the YJK/JJK characters in one book.

    Will say as someone who really became a SW fan via YJK their deaths hit me far more than Chewies.
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Zekk, Tenel Ka, Lowbacca, Tahiri, Raynar and Lusa are in the book, and he kills Lusa and then five of his creations.

    I didn't have an issue with Raynar kissing Eryl following the death of someone important to him. Grief is complicated.

    He used Zekk, Tenel Ka, Lowbacca where other authors barely did (if at all), and introduced five of the six Jedi who died in the book. Tahiri was used by Greg of course, and then Troy. Lusa is killed (originating in Crystal Star), and Raynar given an open ended story yes, but Raynar appeared a fair amount in FotJ and it was Denning who took him out on missions. I loved his redemption arc in FotJ, myself.

    What I'm saying is that Denning spends plenty of time on non-SkySolo Jedi, to the original point.
     
  22. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jedi around Jaina and Jacen's generation we know of: Jacen Solo, Jaina Solo, Anakin Solo, Tenel Ka Djo, Lowbacca, Zekk, Tesar Sebatyne, Bela and Krasov Hara, Jovan Drark, Eryl Besa, Raynar Thul, Sannah, Lyric, Valin and Jysella Horn, Lusa, Ulaha Kore, Alema and Numa Rar...
     
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  23. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Aren't Valin, Sannah and Jysella technically the third generation?

    Because they were in the Maw etc.
     
  24. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Second and third generation were practically the same since there was little to no differences in terms of deaths and increasing irrelevance.
     
  25. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I mean their generation wasn’t old enough to fight the Vong but was pretty important in the FotJ era...