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Lucas tried to get Howard, Zemekis and Spielberg all to direct TPM

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Luukeskywalker, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm much happier with Abrams than if Howard had done it. Howard is not an interesting filmmaker anymore.
    I would've loved to see him tackle Star Wars around the time he made Willow (an underrated gem), but he seems to have lost his directorial voice, and now just makes by-the-numbers movies.

    That said, I'm happy Lucas directed the PT. They wouldn't have been the same without his unique filmmaking style!
     
  2. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What really helped was that Lucas had the time, money and resources to dedicate himself to making TPM which in turn is why he kept directing. He was saying as far back as 1999, that he was going to turn it over to someone else to direct the other two. It wasn't until 2000, that he finally confirmed that he'd direct both films.
     
  3. SegNerd

    SegNerd Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Why didn't he ask Irvin Kershner?
     
  4. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Keshner was already retired when the prequels were made.
     
  5. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Going around the world to shoot movies is not easy work, and Kershner was pushing 80 by the time TPM was released.
     
  6. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    I suspect we wouldn't have had half the negativity we've had to put up with...
     
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  7. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That and he didn't want to do anymore after he did TESB. Which is why he didn't do TESB.
     
  8. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You mean ROTJ?
     
  9. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    But it wasn't just that. Lucas chaffed at not having directorial control in ESB (see my quote). George doesn;t like directing or writing really, but he can;t stand giving up the control. As he said in Rinzler, he likes to edit. But he doesn't like a director telling him how to edit, so he directs. And as a director, he wants control over what he shoots, so he writes.

    There ya go.
     
  10. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Strongbow I don't if you're really serious here. As it was already mentioned on this thread, Lucas tried to get Howard, Zemekis and Spielberg to direct the prequels, 3 directors! If he really wanted control over everything, would he really have asked 3 directors to direct the prequels? Would he really have asked his teacher, Kershner, to direct Empire or let Marquand direct Jedi? Would he have sold his company to Disney?

    I think your reasoning is a bit simplistic. Lucas was exhausted and stressed after directing the original Star Wars (A New Hope) and facing all the technical difficulties and financial constraints by the big studios of 20th Century Fox. As SeventySeven mentioned it in a previous post, that's why he gave up directing. Plus, for Empire and Jedi, the budgets for the making of those two movies have exploded, he was financially broken and that's why he ended with Jedi instead of making sequels and prequels immediately despite the fact that Star Wars was financially successful. And he was facing later a divorce with Marcia Lucas which was also very costly for him. That's why he has also retained a bitter memory from his experience with Star Wars.
     
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  11. Darkslayer

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  12. BattleDroid1138

    BattleDroid1138 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    TPM - Lucas
    AOTC - Spielberg
    ROTS - Lucas? Maybe Howard, but I don’t think he would have done as well with that in 2005 as he did this year with Solo.
     
  13. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    TPM - Zemeckis
    AOTC - Howard
    ROTS - Tarantino

    Perfection!
     
  14. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't think Howard has ever had a strong directorial voice. He himself has admitted that Willow was basically ghost directed by Lucas.

    Howard's the kind of director who can be relied upon to competently deliver what he's given. He won't elevate the material but he won't botch it either. Working as essentially a directorial extension of Lucas on the prequels would have been an ideal role for him and I think it would have worked out fine. But ultimately I'm glad Lucas decided to just do them himself, for better or worse.
     
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  15. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I made that post in 2015. :p

    Though I'm happy to say that I was wrong and that Howard's Star Wars film turned out pretty great.
     
  16. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    Better, better and best I'd say.

    I wish he'd done Empire as well (more than he did) and have done all six (since he effectively did ROTJ).
     
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  17. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    There are around a dozen quotes, mostly from Lucas but also his close friends where he flat out says he hates directing, even more than he dislikes writing. No surprise that over a 50 year career the guy has directed a total of 6 movies. It's a pity none of those guys were wiling to take the reigns of the PT. Lucas seems to work far better as an overseer than the guy in the chair. That's also the way he prefers it.
     
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  18. Frisco

    Frisco Jedi Knight star 2

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    George Lucas's direction was sufficient enough to where fans celebrated TPM during its first theatrical release. Only later was it retroactively derided and despised, because of the internet.
     
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  19. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    But he actually had fun directing the PT:

    The most difficult part of returning to Star Wars, he says, has been neither the directing (“much more fun than it used to be”) nor the pressure of following up an assured classic, but the knowledge that his involvement in the prequels makes him a public figure again. “If there’s any trepidation I have, it’s issues with the media, which has gotten much more savage and worse and gossipy,” he says. “Nobody wants to be Bill Clinton, but anyone who ends up doing anything worthwhile these days ends up being Bill Clinton.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/1999/02/star-wars

    So he had fun making exactly the movies he wanted to make, made a bunch of money doing it, and also made a lot of people happy. All told, not a bad outcome, eh?
     
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  20. Frisco

    Frisco Jedi Knight star 2

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    Not bad at all.
     
  21. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Of all the directors that made Disney Star Wars films, I'd say Ron Howard came the closest to capturing the mood of the George Lucas films.
     
  22. Frisco

    Frisco Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yes, absolutely. Ron Howard really imparted "Solo" with it. He understands STAR WARS!
     
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