ST Luke Skywalker/Mark Hamill Discussion Thread [SEE WARNING ON PAGE 134]

^That's a bit excessive. 50 backflips is more than enough.

 

What’s with everyone wanting Luke to have a secret love child??

Luke took after Obi Wan. He’s a childless Master.

Just like Rey will be.

 

Luke certainly didn’t seem like much of a “ Jedi Master” in the ST.

 

Why not? What's wrong with Luke have a kid?

Not even Obi-Wan has to be childless.

 

This is one of the things I will never forgive Star Wars about, regardless of who is the storyteller and whether it's Lucas or anyone else.
I will take the opportunity with what you mentioned and address something that I want, but not directed at you.

Space is SO ******* EMPTY. The distances between stars are light years, the distances between star clusters are VAST and the empty space within a galaxy is 99.9999% of its volume if not a lot more. You could launch a spaceship in any random direction from Earth and it would most probably fly straight through the entire galaxy and eventually after millions of years exit the galaxy without colliding with anything at all.

The idea that a hyperspace route is something extremely difficult to find, towards any destination of the galaxy, is quite honestly laughable with a basic understanding of Astronomy. An easy excuse for why someone was difficult to track or find in the GFFA. Which could have easily been avoided by just realizing how vast and huge a galaxy is , and just leave it at "it's really ******* hard to find where they went" without using Hyperspace routes and whatnot.

And before anyone says that Physics in Star Wars doesn't work the same way, well, yeah, it actually kinda does for most of the things. Sure, there is sound in space and many other tiny details that make cinema more exciting, but if Luke or Han or Anakin are looking towards the sky and see the same or similar density of stars as we do, guess. They have a similarly structured galaxy, with similar density of stars and vacuums. Oh yeah, and there is a map of it. It is a spiral galaxy, almost identical to our own. So please, do not respond to me with this non existent justification.

There is a reason why everyone thought after TFA that Luke wants to be found. The reason is that it is the only thing that makes sense after the plot of that movie, even if it is not stated in the movie. And I won't even go to Mark Hamill's expression at the end of TFA, which is one of the best ST scenes in my opinion. If he had not wanted to be found, he would have gone to a planet that no one knows, without communicating to anyone about it, without a map existing, and most certainly NOT on an island on a planet that has an ancient Jedi temple. I mean, come on.

Luke is a New Jedi. He doesn't need to obey the Old Republic Jedi rules. He can make a family if he wishes to. Therefore, having a kid makes perfect sense, and is quite interesting as a thought. He doesn't NEED to, but it is certainly a very appealing thought. Also, there is absolutely no reason for Luke to want to be like Obi-Wan. He hang out with Obi-Wan for a few weeks. He learned the basic Jedi lessons, but it's not like Obi-Wan was his life long mentor. If anything, he spent a lot more time with Leia and Han. I have no comment about Rey. I doubt we will see stories with her in the near future. Or ever.

 

@DarthFixxxer that’s fair but when it comes to fantasy I’m far more concerned with the rules being consistent than being realistic.

 

We don't even know how hyperspace works in this galaxy anymore. Ever since RJ confirmed that you can collide with stuff in real space even if you're in hyperspace, there's all kinds of unknowns now. For instance, why would the Empire dump their trash into deep space if they are now running the risk of other Destroyers colliding with it while traveling in hyperspace?

From the dialogue that Han has in ANH, I always assumed that the only thing that could effect ships travelling through hyperspace were large objects with massive gravitational pulls like a star or a black hole. Which is also why we have warships (Interdictor-class Star Destroyer) that have enough power to mimic gravitational fields to pull ships out of hyperspace. I guess I was dumb enough to assume that hyperspace allowed faster-than-light travel because scientists in Star Wars had found out how to put ships into an alternate dimension where only massive gravity wells from the Star Wars dimension effected ships. Now that is clearly not the case.

 

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Glad to finally see Luke Skywalker appear in Disney's Star Wars. The latest episode of The Mandalorian is no cloned Luke. That's how we last saw Luke and would expect him to act to someone in distrest - not what we saw in TLJ.

Glad Favreau and Filoni are working on cleaning it up.

 

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Spoiler: Mandalorian: Episode 16

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It's easy for people to blunder into spoilers if it's an untagged spoiler outside of the show's threads.

 

I hate this that Luke calls Jedis failures and blames them for his father's downfall. It was hypocrisy at worst.

Because Luke is kinda like a Shaolin Monk that shouldn't marry in his whole life. That's a sacrifice of being a Jedi.(Since love is a double edge sword for the Jedis that can destroy them. Similar to the way that Anakin's love for Padme turned him into Darth Vader.)

 

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I’m kind of thinking the 2 F’s are now out to ‘redeem’ Luke’s character...

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i loved seeing this Luke of rhe mandolrian as well as the ST Luke.. he just looked like his father in the hallway.. in time he will learn to project himself across the universe.. this bridged the OT and the ST Luke for me, one and the same, calm and angry, maybe something happens with Grogu that explains further what happens with Ben
and we all know what Grogus blood is used for.. genius

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So how long would it take for Luke to clear Snoke's guards in the throne room

 

Mando-Luke? About 5 seconds. TLJ-Luke? Five hours for whinging. Another five for his own pity party etc. They die of old age because that guy does...very little.

 

One minute and 9 seconds. Literally half of the time it took Kylo Ren and Rey to beat Snoke's guards.

 

Well, he was 28 in the Mandalorian, the prime of his life.


He was just about 55 in TLJ.
So....

 

How old was Dooku when he demolished Obi Wan and Anakin and held his own against Yoda? 85? Mid-50s isn't even that old today, let alone in the GFFA.

 

Well yes.

And Snoke was stationed on a mobile ship purposely. Probably to avoid a Skywalker confrontation.


There’s a reason they kept trying to find his location first.

But only Kylo or someone else in the First Order would have gotten close enough to Snoke to finish him off.

 

I thought you made a point about 55 years old meaning that obviously Luke would be slow and lame and was only arguing against that. If you didn’t mean it like that, I misunderstood.

I also thought the question pertained to how fast someone could clear out the non-force-sensitive red mooks, not Snoke himself.

 

I've rewatched TLJ, a film I was "okay" with, but like most of us have some major issues with; one being the portrayal of Luke. However, after rewatching it I realized my issues are not with the whole character arc, it's the fact that once Luke has reconnected with the force he just dies. Did RJ really see it as important for the character to die? I wouldn't mind Luke dying in TROS but dieing at the end of the film just seemed pointless, it offered nothing.

RJ got greedy in TLJ and robbed us of seeing the Luke we all wanted to see, keeping him alive and having him be killed by Ren or Palps would have given more to the story.