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Discussions Mandalorians vs Sith

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by ChefCurryWindu, Dec 8, 2018.

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  1. ChefCurryWindu

    ChefCurryWindu Jedi Master star 2

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    Hello everyone,

    We know how the Mandalorians were considered the best warriors in the galaxy and often fought numerous times against the Jedi. However, are there any cases in the EU were Mandalorians fought against the Sith Empire, or any Sith lords in particular? How did they fare against the Sith?
     
  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    A few, actually.

    Mandalore the Indomitable fought Ulic Qel-Droma in personal combat on Kuar.

    Mandalore the Preserver led the Mandalorians to war against the Sith Triumvirate, especially Darth Nihilus at Telos.

    Mandalorians fought Darth Caedus, too, some entering into personal combat with him beside Jedi Jaina Solo.


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  3. ChefCurryWindu

    ChefCurryWindu Jedi Master star 2

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    1. Ah yes, I totally forgot about that until you helped me remember it! Mandalore was no match for Qel-Droma as far as I can recall.

    2. Interesting to hear, so it was a Mandalorian fleet vs a Sith fleet.

    3. Another interesting tidbit, how did those Mandalorians do against Caedus?
     
  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    3. First time around, they caught Caedus in a tube between a shuttle and Star Destroyer trying to prevent his Sith apprentice from bleeding out from a thigh wound. They cut the tube and he was forced to also hold together the tube, and so he’s multi-tasking horrifically and a Mandalorian kneecaps him before he used the pain to fuel his power and escape, and save his apprentice from death.

    The second time, half a dozen Mandalorians attack the Moffs and he slaughters then all. With ease. With aplomb. Without breaking a sweat. He uses shatterpoint to break lightsaber-proof lightsaber armour; he has a fist-fight with one but really uses the Mando to shield him from sniper fire until the sniper needs to reload, and drives his saber through the man’s visor; he chokes one to death; he sends one flying and she crashes upside down on her head, and is left for dead. The others his Stormtroopers kill.

    His response to said second attack is to have a fleet bombard Mandalore and a nanokiller weapon used on the world that kills everyone with Fett DNA. Which there was a lot on-world by that point.

    There’s also the moment in both continuities where Maul fights the leader of Death Watch for the throne. Dead Death Watch Leader.


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  5. Mostlymad

    Mostlymad Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd like to hear from @Bardan_Jusik , the resident Mandalorian expert, on this topic... to get the other side (if there is one?).
     
  6. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Considering how little of the EU I have actually read I don't have much of counter to this. ;) The first instance that came to mind was the Vizsla/Maul battle already mentioned. My understanding, and this was backed up by Rebels, is that Mandalorian tech and fighting skills are enough to allow a highly trained Mandalorian take on a force user (of either light or dark side bent) but there is a steep curve that pretty universally favors the force user.

    Against the best of the best of force users of either side; Windu, Caedus (who is a very special case not many force users could even take him on) and so forth there is little chance (never tell me the odds) for even a highly trained Mando to come out on top. Though they should fare better than most and the shabla spoonbender will know they've been in a fight. :p

    Now given the Sith tendency towards concentrating their power in just a few individuals, those I think are generally more powerful on an individual basis than their Jedi counterparts who tend tend towards the larger group, with some far less trained and less powerful than their Sith analogues. Those "weaker" Jedi tend to be the ones we see Mandalorians dispatching while the upper echelon Jedi seem to fare far better, whereas the Sith weed out the "weaker" darksiders from their ranks.
     
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  7. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The glaring inconsistency between how Caedus performed against the Mandos in Revelation and how he performed in Invincible was never something I could easily square. I get Caedus was trapped and had other concerns(that was the same situation in the final duel with Jaina-guess Caedus is at his weakest when his attention is occupied elsewhere).
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I disagree. Caedus just took down a planetary shield. I’d be more annoyed if he’d just carried on.


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  9. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    In the Sith-Imperial war the GA hired the Mandolorians to fight against the Sith/Imperial forces
     
  10. Jedi Knight88

    Jedi Knight88 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think that the sith would eventually win with their force knowledge and ability to corrupt opponents
     
  11. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We know the OOU reasons for the discrepancy. Its one of those instances where IU justifications feel somewhat hollow.
     
  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not even Revan, or Valkorion, or Sidious did that. The OOU remains are moot for me.


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  13. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I guess that's a matter of personal taste and SOD limitations I suppose.
     
  14. Darth Majestic

    Darth Majestic Jedi Knight star 2

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    Darth Maul basically single handedly won leadership of Mandalore. ...and Darth Caedus wiped out a bunch of Mandalorians before seeding the planet with his nano-killer bomb. Hands down Sith over Mandalorians.

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