Amph Marvel's Falcon & Winter Soldier [Disney+]

I think in Walker's case he's coming from having been part of a "team" for a long time, where he's seen as the top dog. He earned it, and he started off meaning well. But to remain top dog -- and later designated Captain America -- he had to continually prove to everyone and himself that he deserved it.

Steve didn't need to worry about that. It never crossed his mind he was trying to "prove" anything to anybody.

 

I really doubt this is what the show was going for, but

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it’s interesting to me that notwithstanding the horrific professional therapy we see at the beginning, the leads help each other discover self-differentiation.

 

Sorry, accidental double post.

 

It wasn't Zemo having an opinion, it was Zemo deciding he could be the sole judge of who deserves life and who deserves death, that Sam called out.

Also... I really don't see the super-soldier serum as giving anyone "god-like" abilities. It's really not even close to the power-level of the other supers.

And at the end of the day... there are more threats like Loki, Thanos, the Chitauri, the Kree, the Dark Elves, the Frost Giants, Ultron/White Vision, Dormammu, Agatha Harkness, etc. What makes the serum worst than Iron Man/Ant Man technology, or Doctor Strange/Scarlet Witch magic

 

... yes? Yes she has?

 

Sorry, I thought you were asking in general if she's done it. Since the end of last week's episode, she has not.

 

Oh, there was a stealth post-credits scene? Don't care. Can't be bothered to advertise - or just, you know, be more consistent about it like all those films did - then I can't be bothered to wait for something that may or may not be there.

What's worse is this worked well on the films, but it works because it came to be expected and it gives a sense of confidence and direction in the story.

Doing the same thing but with a random pattern? Doesn't work.

 

This series has ended up being good for reasons I did not foresee. Kudos to Marvel, and much respect to all the actors, in particular Wyatt Russell just because I literally didn't know he even existed.

 

Same.

Wyatt has the most difficult role here,

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the moment where he lies to Lemar’s family was just awful. He wouldn’t tell he was responsible for their son’s death.

That makes me wonder how Bucky will approach Yuri in regard to the Winter Soldier killing Yuri’s son.

 

Truth. I mean, I knew he was an actor, and such, but he has been in a lot of ways overshadowed by who his parents are (Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn}, and the superstar success of his older sister (Kate Hudson). But that's the magic of the MCU isn't it? It takes actors that maybe aren't that known (Chris Pratt for example - yes, I know he's cancelled at the moment), or perhaps forgotten about in RDJ's case, and raises their profile to the nth degree.

 

I have a feeling the longest episode of the show will be the final

 

Brilliant fifth episode with a strong starting fight to allow for a heavy character development episode, I presume this will allow for a pretty good action packed final.

This has definitely been my favourite MCU show out of the two.

 

Good points, I’ve seen Wyatt in other things, so I knew he was good. He is really good here, and I still pause when I hear him because he does sound like his dad a lot (not just the voice, but his delivery.) You’re right about the MCU with actors known and unknown. They have the casting mojo down pat.

 

Understood. I just found it tired and cliched.

 

Fun interview with Wyatt about TFATWS, but he will not play Snake Plissken. I get it though.

 

1st leader = Steve Rogers
2nd leader = John Walker

I served under both types. No doubt where my loyalties lay.

 

Powerful episode!

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(1) Loved the fight with Walker, Bucky and Sam. They surprised me, pleasantly, by making Walker formidable; its not clear either Sam or Bucky could have taken him on their own. That was a nice touch.
(2) Sam TOTALLY blew that exchange by making it about the shield. It made the whole thing look selfish and just another case of "Nah, we were never going to give you a chance, you're not Steve Rogers". Walker probably should have known what he was signing up for, and I still think that the odds of the US government naming its next superhero "Captain America" versus something else was pretty slim, but.... you have to admit, Sam, Bucky and a lot of others gave the guy zero chance.
(3) Marvel, in comic books and the MCU, has a real problem with superheroes who work for the government. They are portrayed as evil 99% of the time (they mostly ignore War Machine, so he gets a pass, I guess). Battlestar was a refreshing exception, but a short lived one. I am not sure what their point is, truly. The world would be safer and better if people with astonishing power ignored laws and governments and "followed their conscience"? Like, um, supervillains? The Civil War comic book series (the first) was appalling in a lot of ways, but especially amazing when Cap beats up the Punisher, when the Punisher is EXACTLY the logical endpoint of a "follow your own conscience" code. Or Zemo is.
(4) Kind of related to #3, does Sam work for the US government or not? His "intel" guy is Army. His Falcon suit was stolen US govt tech, which he was apparently using with their blessing, post "the Blip".
(5) LOVE seeing Batroc again. He was great in his brief appearance in WINTER SOLDIER, loved his surprise appearance at the start of the series, and looks like we'll be seeing more of him.
(6) Why would Zemo be in Bucky's book of people with whom he needs to make amends? Maybe I need to go back and rewatch Civil War, or maybe I am just having a huge brain cramp here, but...??????
(7) Zemo escapes from Sam and Bucky and his plan is to just stand around and let Bucky capture him? That...makes no sense. He's supposed to be smart, a master tactician, and he had ZERO back up plan in case he couldn't convince Bucky to take out the Flag Smashers?