Amph Marvel's Hawkeye, Introducing Kate Bishop and Pizza Dog

Hmm, when you say operating through the Snap do you mean that they'll establish that the Netflix shows took place in that five years after the snap?

On a side note now that they're introducing the multi-verse I'd for some reason never thought about what that meant that J.K. Simmons plays Jameson in all the Spider-Man movies. I guess he's a variant?

 

Gotcha but why would they need to change anything about the Netflix Marvel characters? Why not just have them show up in the MCU with the understanding that everything that happened in the Netflix shows happened? They were, (are?) canon after all. I'm honestly confused why people think they're not canon when Marvel hasn't ever straight up announced that they're no long canon like LFL did when they decanonized a bunch of the old Star Wars stories.

If D'onofrio plays the Kingpin on Hawkeye do they really need to explain to people who didn't watch Daredevil that the Kingpin was on that show and that he did XY and Z while he was on Daredevil?

 

I hear you.

Re: Iron Fist, the whole world ignored his two seasons on Netflix so it seems like they could easily just not mention him in the MCU even if and when they bring in the other Netflix characters.

I just realized something though, even though it would be great to see the Netflix characters pop up in future MCU projects and I do want them to be canon, I don't know that I need another season of TV from those characters. I'd be okay just knowing that they're canon and that occasionally they pop up from time to time in other shows and movies. That said, who am I kidding? If Marvel turned around and announced another season of Daredevil or Jessica Jones I'd be stoked.

 

JJJ needs his own 'What If' episode! Have it on my desk in an hour or you're fired!

I've never seen DD, and I have no issues with KP appearing. Even people with no idea who he is shouldn't have any trouble figuring out what kind of person he is and what his basic motivations are. 'Big gangster' is not a difficult concept to grasp.

 

To be honest I was pretty skeptical about the whole show, but I quite enjoyed the first 3 episodes. So I am moderately positive about the rest.

Really liked Echo, she did a great job!

 

Exactly. He hasn't even appeared yet and we already get that "uncle" is a big gangster that shouldn't be messed with. Confirming that the uncle is Kingpin immediately lets viewers know that Kingpin is a...well a gangster kingpin.

 

yah when they announced the Echo show I was like "Phsaw, you can't really do that without Daredevil characters" but it seems they know that too.

now I'm basically waiting for the last 3 episodes of Hawkeye to just suddenly turn into Daredevil again. Not that I'd mind!

 

Yes, they can and did. I think Echo’s series is where they will introduce DD, though I would not be surprised if Matt Murdock shows up in Hawkeye or She-Hulk first. Hawkeye seems less likely because they have to resolve Clint’s conflicts with Yelena and

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Echo

first. Though how they’re going to resolve

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Ronin killing Maya’s father is anyone’s guess.

I’m looking forward to seeing how they do that though. ​

 

Daredevil is rumored to appear in a few upcoming projects but Hawkeye isn’t one of them.

 

Can't wait for them to reintroduce Daredevil, as my second-favourite superhero.

How's everyone finding Hawkeye? I'm enjoying but I've gotta' admit I found Episode 3 lacked something, though I can't put my finger on what. Hoping for a stronger second-half of the series.

 

Renner and Steinfeld have been great together. And the thought of the Swordsman presumably having a larger role next episode, and Florence Pugh turning up at some point make me hope that this will be a show that steadily gets better as it goes along.

 

I’m delighted, but I knew I would be. Looking forward to what’s next.

 

Echo’s creator David Mack shared his feelings about Hawkeye on IG:

 

I'm digging the character and the actors who played them and if a comics creator is happy with an adaptation of their work I think that's great, but you do not under any circumstances gotta hand it to Joe Quesada.

 

I will always appreciate Joe Q because Captain America The Winter Soldier and Moon Knight The Bottom storylines came out under his days as E-I-C. So for those two storylines, I’m good.

And why shouldn’t David Mack thank Joe Q for hiring Mack to do the Daredevil project featuring Echo’s creation?

 

Yeah, other than JQ being in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back -- I'm not sure what beef there was with Quesada? (it's been a while, I may not remember...)

 

I think the main thing is blowing up Peter and MJ's marriage in One More Day.