Amph Marvel's Loki [Disney+]

I don’t understand it either, but if you tell a good story I am all for it

 

After Loki broke the multiverse the next MCU show is What If...

 

I liked LOKI, but I didn't love it - and even saying that, I can see how that's a tough standard. I guess that is a relevant standard for me, because, given my love of "superhero stuff", and given how much I love seeing Hiddleseton's Loki, I feel like it was legit to set the bar high. And while there were moments I enjoyed, and a few I loved - almost all in the next to last episode - overall I found the series to be slow, talky, and to have taken Loki in a direction that removes a lot of the character's charm. Even if he isn't "evil", I expect him to be witty, smart, funny, devilish, brash, and to at least SEEM to be considering doing something mischievous or "wrong". This Loki, to me, was sad and passive, and somewhat directionless. I get that they wanted this to be a chastened, somewhat reformed Loki (a change of heart that seemed a bit quick for me, given that this is the "just launched the NY attack" Loki - even if

Spoiler

he was shown the lowlights of the path he was on

) but chastened doesn't necessarily equal entertaining (at least for me).

As for

Spoiler

the "big reveal", I found it kinda meh. Too much telling, not enough "showing" maybe? I suspect the other thing is that when you start playing with these Groundhog Day / Multiverse story elements, you start to make it seem like not much matters. I am not sure what it was, but the end didn't just wow me.

I feel obliged to say something I have said many times - if LOKI DID work for you, not trying to talk you out of it or argue you down from that position. Enjoy! As I said above, I liked it, overall. Just found that for a series ostensibly centered around a character and an actor I really like (although, honestly, not all that much centered!), my reaction was more tepid than I would have expected.

 

Theory time

Spoiler

Ravonna Renslayer is a female variant of He Who Remains.

 

Spoiler

... or his mother.

 

Spoiler

Wasn’t non-variant Renslayer in 2018 though?

 

Yes, but time has little meaning in this show.

 

Spoiler

I think it would be too much of departure from the comics lore. Revonna always Kang love interest. Her "real" name, showed in that diploma at her high school office, was a name she used when Kang and her lived in the 19th century. I think Marvel is aiming at the TERMINATRIX variant of her.

 

Spoiler

Loki and his variant were love interests, so just playing on that duality especially if they did decide, but declined, to run the TVA together.

 

Just watched the making-of doc on Disney+.

 

My new favorite "Strange has to fix this mess" image:

 

Hi

Just came across this thread

I've been thinking about the mcu since the loki finale

Awesome stuff

 

When The Falcon and the Winter Soldier ended i was sure Sharon Carter/Power Broker was a Skrull ( remember how the timeline of her rise in power in the criminal underwoeld of Madripor never made sense since she was also bliped ?)
Now seeing this, i think she's a variant working for Kang. Yep i'm saying all the shows were connected and some stuff that never realy made sense in the previous shows may have an explanantion.
Also, NEVER FORGET

Spoiler

Ralph Bohner was really a variant of Quicksilver from the X-men's Foxverse

 

Spoiler

 

^ I cannot unsee that and I don’t care!

 

I still think she's a Skrull.

 

The Croki Hook moment and Miss Minutes & HAL 9000 made me

 

According to Kate Herron, Director of Season 1 of Loki, regarding the "Infinity War"...

Spoiler

...He Who Remains aka variant Kang says he paved the way, they (Loki/Sylvie) simply walked the path. So if you think about Kang manipulating time and allowing the Infinity War to happen, he's technically responsible for the chain of events that lead to Thanos and Tony Stark's (and Steve Rodgers) death. So it's fun to think about how Kang orchestrated the whole thing and is kinda responsible. Some major players who would have been a threat to Kang are no longer a threat to his eventual tyrannical rule.

What he didn't plan for was Wanda's transformation to becoming a Nexus being which fans found syncs up with the timestamp events of Loki when they "crossed the threshold". In the end, it's pretty cool how Loki set up the next big villain while WandaVision set up our next hero/hope.

 

I wanted to like this show and I did for the first few episodes but I became bored. I lost interest, didn't pay attention and I honestly have no clue what is going on at this point. I have no interest in the characters. It's a shame because I do like Loki, but I guess not enough for him to have his own show...

 

I enjoyed seeing this a while back.

My only criticism of the show was that Loki, Mobius, and Sylvie didn't discuss the debate between determinism and free will, nor did the notion of compatibilism come up. However, I was a philosophy minor in college, and maybe I'm a bit biased toward such discussions.

Frankly, prior to hearing how Cosmonaut Picture Show found the show so exciting, I did not anticipate that I would love this show as much as I do. Ha ha. At first, I believed it was an attempt to make Loki a villain again or something like that. Astonishingly, as much as I like Sylvie, I can't decide if her view, which Mobius and B-15 later adopt for themselves, that free will should reign, or if He Who Remains/Kang was right that there should only be one timeline with strict determinism.









I enjoyed the scenes of Mobius and Loki talking about things and gradually becoming friends. They were so funny. I liked Mobius calling Loki a "cockroach" and then later saying he could be someone good. When I thought Renslayer killed him, I cried, and I felt terrible for him and Loki.

I gotta say I loved Jonathan Majors' performance as He Who Remains. I rewatched it after eating a fraction of a gummy from the store, and that made it even more hilarious in spite of how terrifying he is. During that scene, Sylvie is like, "I don't give a ****," and Loki is like, "What the **** is goin' on?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_GCxCe-Pno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pd5ABVoVok

Natalie Holt is something else. Her music blew me away.

Well, Mobius and Sylvie are apparently going to be in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It'll be interesting for them to interact with Stephen Strange and Wanda. I know Kang is now ascending, but as far as his powers and those of his variants are concerned, I wanna to know what the **** is goin' on. It'll be interesting to see Kang face off against Ant-Man and Wasp in 2023.

"And if you think I'm evil, well, just wait...till you meet my variants."
- He Who Remains, referring to Kang the Conqueror