Amph Marvel's The Punisher

It comes up after the fade to black, so...

 

That final scene at the end of S2 was a loathsome and regressive end an otherwise respectable two seasons.

 

I am one of those people yelling for Moon Knight. If any Marvel character needs a hard R show or movie; it’s MK.

As far as this Punisher, haven’t seen it. But I hope someone else tries Frank along the way. The right actor and storyline could be excellent.

 

I think Punisher does regress and goes into blind killer rage a lot which happens in the show. Like he tells the girl that he found something that made him happy at the bus station, or when he found the bartender at the start of Season 2 for some happiness and then at the end of the 1st episode, and 3 months later at the end of the season, he's back to killing goons and going nuts. Same thing that when Frank thought he killed those girls he accepted it as very possible because he was in a blood rampage trying to kill Billy. He was straight up ready to die because he knew it's possible he could lose control.

One of the series most important moments to me is in Season 1 when Frank is getting beaten up and sees a vision of his wife who calls him to the other side and he looks at her and doesn't leave, goes back to the real world, murders the hell out of the guy torturing him. So he does find moments of peace and acceptance and then later his switch flips because he is The Punisher. Double barrel hollering of gunning down crooks.

the Stan Lee dedication card was ill timed at best, though. And Stan Lee didn't write The Punisher, he was off Amazing Spider-Man at that point. Gerry Conway was the writer, I believe. Stan was the editor in chief for Punisher's first appearance, though.

 

They have the right actor for Frank. The story line wasn’t too shabby, either. You should porbably watch it.

 

I wasn't too enthused by what little I saw of Jon's performance, but perhaps if it's available for rent on something other than Netflix, I may give a look.

 

I posted this in the "what are you watching" thread, but it should probably go here.

Finally got around to watching Season 1 and 2. Wow. The first season was so...just so many feels. It was fantastic all around, though I didn't much care for that Louis kid's plot. I mean, i liked how to season covered so many different aspects of war and its ramifications on people and politics.

It was a very intelligently written season imo. And I found myself eager for the violence of the final confrontation, for the making of Jigsaw.

Season 2, however, was a "flustercuck" of highs and lows. It was kind of all over and abandoned a cohesive, cunning story for gratuitous violence. The Jigsaw stuff was all well done. I'm not sure what to make of the blackmail plotline, but Ben Barnes delivered an outstanding performance imo.

Curtis once again gets pummeled for being an idiot in his fights. I did miss David, though. I think he and Frank had some good back and forth in season 1.

I guess I was also hoping for a bit more one on one closure between Frank and Jigsaw (the latter's character kept begging for it--but it seemed like the writers forgot about that thread in the mess of all the other plots).

Doctor Dumont's odd approach to therapy wasn't expected at all. I've taken advantage of provided therapy sessions before, but never did they get sensual.

Props to Agent Madani as well. For a supporting character, she was very well written throughout both seasons, her arc always compelling and heartfelt. Great performance there as well.

And Frank. There just isn't a better fit actor for this role. Intense performance throughout. The Punisher really should invest in Batman or Daredevil style armor though. The guy spends most of season 2 covered in his own blood. Like jeez, even some basic sparring armor would have helped a bit. How is his entire body not just one internal hemorrhage?

 

I really didn't like season two all that much. It certainly wasn't the direction I though it would go. I posted before that I hope the second season would pick up shortly after Frank was broke out of prison in season two of Daredevil. Season two was like a very poor man's version of Logan, where Frank retires skull on his chest and wants to move one. There were a few bits and pieces I did enjoy though but to be totally cliche, they were too few and far between.

 

How do Punisher Seasons 1 and 2 relate to Daredevil Season 2? Do they both take place after DD S2?

 

The strongest ties to the Punisher seasons 1 and 2 to Daredevil season 2 relies within Karen Page and her commitment to helping Frank. Again, I was hoping there were more ties to Frank and Kingpin as referenced in the scene below where Kingpin talks about needing Frank in the "long game" and "winning the war," but there were really none to be found.



The other ties between the Punisher seasons and season two of Daredevil revolve around the day Frank's family was murdered at the carousel.