Amph Marvel's WandaVision

So in the show it seems people have moments of awareness

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Almost like they're under a spell or "enchantment". "Geraldine" seemed to snap out of it momentarily, when she said "What was that?" at the stork squaking she dropped the jive talking accent, or the Ultron reference. (I think she was sent in undercover so see what happened and then got caught in the magic, now that she's thrown out she can be normal again) Or the moment when when the Doctor said it's so hard to escape small towns. Or when Herb was cutting the hedges and didn't notice the fence, he's zoned out. And a few other bits of let's say "awakening" scattered throughout. I think Wanda is way into the sitcom tropes and has moments when reality can crash in so she resets it so it can go back to being perfect.

The notion that everyone is dead is unique. Maybe Wanda did it and is trying to give everyone happiness as penance. It's been awhile since I've read House of M, but that was Vision's death caused Wanda to snap and create a alternate reality so while this isn't House of M, I think it's taking that broad strokes plot.

 

Or everyone

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is dead

in real time but this

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"other" Westview

is a twisted multiverse that Wanda entered. And going back and forth can really mess you up (hence the Multiverse of Madness concept.)

Just as the infinity stones and the Quantum Realm were ultimately the key elements prior to this, the multiverse created from them is the key element in the next phase. They all have to deal with the consequences of having defeated Thanos in the way they did as well as Steve Rogers really screwing things up by living out his life from the past.

 

It's definitely possible that

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Wanda is in another reality and so are they.
I'm thinking of Agents of SHIELD season 6 where May 'died' but in the reality she died in,she couldn't stay dead and was therefore 'undead'

The thing I keep going back to is how Mrs. Hart sounded like she was telling someone to knock it off. "Stop it" "Stop it". And maybe it is because Debra Jo played a nurse in That 70s Show, but I just keep picturing her as a nurse trying to calm Wanda down in a mental hospital. And Mr. Hart, I keep picturing as a doctor who got too close trying to get through to Wanda (so she choked him).

The big thing with Episode 1 is time. We don't know how long Wanda has been in this reality or how she got there. But we can presume by everything happening that it was relatively quick.

Episode 2 is the arrival of Geraldine/Monica and we seem to get that tip off with both the scraping the night before and the plane Wanda finds in the bushes. Did Monica crash land at that moment? And that is why she appears at the gathering with no idea how she arrived (very similar to how Wanda and Vision seemed to act when they realized how little they could remember in Episode 1).

With Episode 3, what is the significance of Herb cutting the wall? What was he seeing/doing that made him do that? Was that a subtle attempt at escape or showing how he was a 'zombie' controlled by Wanda's power? And since her powers were focused on the twins and the birth, maybe he and others like Agnes, started to have realizations of what was happening.Obviously the doctor did, realizing he could never leave for Bermuda. Convenient how his car would not start.

There is definitely someone keeping them all trapped. But is it Wanda? Or, is Wanda being used as the tool that keeps them there?

And we are three episodes in and Ralph has not appeared. Who is Ralph really?

 

My wife immediately noticed that Agnes was riding a bike. I wondered why that was so important and she brought up the fact that it was

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just like the Wicked Witch of the West riding the bike in Wizard of Oz. It was a very similar looking bike.

Perhaps with the leaked set photos of

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Kathryn Hahn and others dressed like witches, they are all former witches in other realms, some maybe who even died in the Salem witch hunts.

Maybe SWORD and/or whoever is monitoring all of this have stumbled upon a massive energy field that is actually some sort of

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portal to the dead....er.....hell

By the way do we really have to keep

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hiding our own crazy theories in spoiler tags even though they may not even being close to true?

 

Spoiler period is two weeks, right? So first two weeks are under tag?

 

I gotta say that this isn't doing anything for me so far . it's not really a spoof, its not funny. Sure I'm interested to know what's really going on but I'm not intrigued by what they're doing .

 

See, but we find it hilarious over here. I appreciate your willingness to acknowledge it's not funny to you (this is an enlightened position on the interwebs!), so I wonder how much of this is the humor is rooted in the shows they're lovingly recreating-to-spoof... like how familiar people are with the shows and/or television at the time, and does that make it more or less funny, etc. For instance, I was cackling at them making fun of the:

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"How to hide a woman's pregnancy with large clothing and objects in front of her midsection" trope in this episode. No one did it better, or funnier, than Brooklyn Nine Nine, but this was a game effort.

I still suspect that the shows may be significant, but maybe not in a "It's a Good Life" (The Twilight Zone) way -- though that was definitely the vibe of the last show.

 

Well I'm pretty familiar with Lucy and Bewitched etc. and liked them , but this doesn't make me laugh.

I recall watching Moonlighting when they did The Honeymooners and that was great.

 

I like the humor in this a lot, but it’s mostly because of the two actors chemistry, I loved the magic show in the second episode, Flourish lol

But honestly I’m not familiar with most of the shows they are trying to emulate at all, my grandmother watched a lot of I Love Lucy, so I watched a lot of that as a kid, but I don’t know that I would recognize any specific call backs to that.

 

I don't think you need any specific knowledge to get what they're going for here. It's far more a general tone or style, which is pretty well known.

 

I am not a fan of those type of sitcoms, but I can deal with these as a pastiche of those sitcoms because I know that there is an underlying mystery bubbling away just under the surface.

 

That’s a good point, I’ve been basically assuming all the sitcom aspects are just for us, the audience, but maybe an in-universe explanation will be given

Even if it’s just Wanda and Pietro watched a lot of American television growing up in Sokovia

 

yeah, that would make sense, my grandmother learned English similarly, she always had an accent though

 

I've seen it mentioned somewhere, I can't recall where atm, but after Wanda joined the Avengers Nat told her that there would be times in the field when her accent would be a liability and told her to watch old sitcoms to hone her American accent. Remember Nat herself was a Russian born spy herself so she had to do the same thing for the same reason.

 

WandaVision, it's 99% an exact replication of hacky bad sitcoms from decades ago with something interesting hinted at for 30 seconds.

EDIT: @The2ndQuest Yeah my issue is that I was never a huge fan of the shows that they've recreated. Sure I watched them as a kid but it was because nothing else was on so to sit through three episodes created in style that I've never especially liked is a bit of slog.

I wish there was more of a balance, where they included more non-old timey sitcom moments. The parts where they break from the old sitcom format are the best/most interesting and are what have been keeping me watching. I hope they ramp that up.

I'm starting have flashbacks to Twin Peaks: The Return where I spent the whole season dying for Cooper to come back and then he doesn't really come back until what, the last episode? Ugh...

 

There's been some potential Doctor Strange references but we may have gotten an Ant-Man nod as well.

Ep. 3 was certainly based on The Brady Bunch. From the set to the layout and graphics in the opening. Butt the opening song ... that was evoking The Partridge Family intro music. That song was used in the Ant-Man and the Wasp soundtrack. That movie was the first MCU entry to explore the Quantum Realm with any sort of depth.

A stretch? Maybe ...

 

I watched Brady Bunch in re-runs. I never really watched Bewitched and certainly not any shows from the 50's. I was never really a sitcom person at all. The only sitcom I watched pretty much religiously was MASH. But I am ALL about the intrigue of this show. I'm not looking for laughs from this. I read into every line given for clues. For me, it's a redemption of having labored through LOST with absolutely no conclusion, knowing that this is Feige we're talking about and he will deliver.

But I also know that not every single clue will factor into what is actually going on. Many are tributes to different things in the comics, meant to create discussion. And since there is SO much comic lore in the Marvel world and all sorts of viewers with different levels of knowledge, they can throw in anything and get people to talk.

I still really think that one of the biggest clues of all is the

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bones and helmet shown in a microsecond during the episode 2 cartoon intro

. Those were specifically made to be hidden. Not saying that

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the Grim Reaper is the villain, but I think those things represent death and may be a clue that they are all dead. Maybe the entire town was destroyed and everyone died BUT SWORD is picking up life forms there behind the purple magnetic field thingy.

Whatever is going on, I feel pretty confident that it will not be nearly as complicated or convoluted as many of us think. Also, while there will probably end up being a connection to comic lore, it won't contain so many layered elements as suggested by the plethora of hints and Easter eggs. It IS nice to know this show has a finite end that doesn't go on and on indefinitely and also DOES feed in somewhat directly into a major motion picture.Safe to say the whole thing was planned start to finish just as most of the Marvel films are (unlike, ehem, the most recent movies from something else we all love).

 

I feel the opposite. I think it's going to be nearly impossible to make a compelling explanation for all of the variables that have been presented.