Senate Vaccinations/Anti-Vaxxers Discussion (formerly: Measles outbreak at Disneyland)

Further proof that anti-vaxxer insanity is not limited to the US: German product testing institute "Stiftung Warentest" (essentially the German equivalent of Consumer Reports), published an article in its magazine on the surge of measles cases in Germany (over 400 cases in 2015 in Berlin alone), with a link on its Facebook page. Suffice it to say the Jenny McCarthy#s teutonic brethren have outdone themselves in terms of hysterical citing opf misinformation:
https://www.facebook.com/stiftungwarentest/posts/10153602041523332

 

Australia is now suspending tax benefits and assistance for families who refuse to vaccinate their children.

Jesus must be furious.

 

Given that anti-vaxxers tend to be on the wealthier side, how much does that affect them?

 

I can't find any evidence to suggest this is the case in Australia even.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/national/heal...tion-rates-research-shows-20140326-35iy3.html

 

In the US, it's broken down along two lines:

1) Personal exemptions (aka "The Jenny McCarthy group") who are generally trending affluent, white, suburban.

2) Religious exemptions (genuine ones, again which should not be harmful as herd immunity would still be maintained) which, I believe, generally trend poorer, or very insular communities (e.g. Yeshivas).

The always-appropriate medical exemptions (auto-immune diseases, etc.) which no one complains about tend to fall across the entire spectrum, as random medical issues do, but probably appear to be mostly affluent as poor kids probably die sooner for obvious reasons.

 

Thanks Even, I wasn't able to find it.

You asked how it affects them: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/child-care-rebate

You may be eligible for Child Care Rebate if:

• you use a Child Care Benefit approved child care service
• you are eligible for Child Care Benefit, even if you earn too much to receive payment, and
• you and your partner meet the Work, Training, Study test or are exempt from it

Bearing in mind that Sydney, where your study is covered, is more expensive on a per capita and adjusted basis that almost any city on Earth (Singapore, Paris, Oslo, Zurich then Sydney in order) and people are often paying up to 9x salary for a house, the CCR is a relied upon payment for most families. Even the upper middle class ones. So, it will actually have an effect in a number of these suburbs.
Child Care Rebate is not income tested.

 

Anti-vax mom changes her tune when all 7 of her children come down with whooping cough

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/04/14/anti-vax-mom-changes-her-tune-when-all-7-of-her-children-come-down-with-whooping-cough/?tid=pm_pop

"I set out to prove that we were right," Hills said in an interview with the Washington Post, "and in the process found out how wrong we were."

 

I love the concerns that vaccines are just part of a vast media and pharmaceutical conspiracy. Sure companies and the media can be really shady, but the suggestion that this would have to extend to *every* scientist and doctor around the globe is totally bonkers.

Sad these people's kids had to suffer, but glad that they saw how dumb they were being.

 

Healthy Chicago is running a series of mass transit ads in Spanish encouraging parents to get all the recommended vaccines for their children. I wonder if there is particular resistance to vaccines in the immigrant community, or if that's more of a general awareness and access to care issue.

 

They should reincarnate Marisol y Julio of NYC subway fame.

 

There isn't any substantial resistance to vaccinations among immigrants.

And that woman is so sadly typical. "It's not an issue until it directly affects me or someone I care about."

 

Yes, the attitude of pretty much all these people is "well as long as other people get vaccines, my kids can be the ones not to." Unfortunately when all the rich people who all think their kids are the most special snowflakes, this creates a bit of a problem. Then you wind up with Santa Monica schools that have the vaccination rate of South Sudan.

You know, if I lived somewhere where it was difficult to get vaccines and I obviously desperately wanted them for my family, I might *slightly* hate the *******s in West LA.

 

I'll shoulder that burden for you solojones.

 

Language warning, naturally.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-criticize-vaccines/?utm_term=.431c1d35bcd1

Robert De Niro is now a full blown anti-vaxxer. Sad.

 

Another study for these monsters to ignore. Only over 650,000 people studied....


Conclusion:

The study strongly supports that MMR vaccination does not increase the risk for autism, does not trigger autism in susceptible children, and is not associated with clustering of autism cases after vaccination. It adds to previous studies through significant additional statistical power and by addressing hypotheses of susceptible subgroups and clustering of cases.

https://annals.org/aim/article-abst...la-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

 

^ That reminded me of this.

Amazon Pulls Anti-Vaccination Documentaries From Prime Video After Congressman’s Inquiry to Jeff Bezos

 

Good. Free speech doesn't mean you deserve access to the biggest private platforms out there.

 

I’d like to hear about the strutter bubble.

Don’t let me down, P.

 

I’ve got a bad case of the beezels.

 

I asked you, four years later, to be anything. And you became a god.