Mistakes made by the Council

OK, if the Council had any sense, they may have:

1) Noticed that a Sith Lord ran the Senate (yeah, yeah they couldn't sense himbull he was sitting RIGHT THERE!

2) Could the Jedi have not arranged for the freedom of Shmi. "No, you are now a Jedi, and even though this may result in you killing us all, we will let your Mom rot as a slave." Nice.

3) Could Obi-Wan not have saved Anakin in ROTS. WHen he bent down to check Padme's vitals, what if he had said, "Anakin, she is alive, but hurt, we need to get her to a medical facility." Maybe that would have been a better option then. "I will do what I must as I am blatently being the aggressor by lighting my saber alredy while claiming both that you are the evil one, and I wish to save you." Right.

Any others?

 

4) Notice the obvious connection between Count Dooku, Jango Fett and the Clone Army.

 

5) Been smarter than to have a bunch of soldiers guarding you when you know a Sith Lord controls the senate.

 

A jedi has no attachments.
What sort of genuis would free his mom when he isn't supposed to have any attachments at all?

It's his attachment to his wife that gets them all killed, so freeing his mom would have just made it worse.

 

No, it was the fear of loss of those attatchments. Anakin was still attatched to his mother anyway, but no greed over losing her, if she were saved.

 

"What sort of genuis would free his mom when he isn't supposed to have any attachments at all?"

It isn't about attachments. No one said Shmi should have moved into the Jedi Temple. It's about compassion, which is suppose to be the Jedi way (key words "suppose to").

EDIT: Ok, so italics no longer functions.

 

That's cruel! Stay back, Sith!

 

6) "Very dangerous putting the two of them together. I don't think the boy can handle it. I don't trust him." Hmmm, so, uh, why did you give him this assignment, then, Mace?

 

I don't think so.
The Jedi have Anakin, which is all they want. They couldn't care less about the families they steal their recruits from.

Palpatine was right, the Jedi suck.

 

Dude, the Jedi are freakin evil! They always light their sabers first, and they have NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER ABOUT A FAIR FIGHT!!!! I mean, come one, we either have to do two on one, or tag team, what is their problem???

 

jedi has no attachments. What sort of genuis would free his mom when he isn't supposed to have any attachments at all?
It's his attachment to his wife that gets them all killed, so freeing his mom would have just made it worse.

Furthermore, Shimi was freed and married her emancipator.



Why isn't the above italicizing?

 

7) Allow Obi-Wan, a newly promoted Jedi Knight, to train the oldest boy to ever be accepted in the program instead of giving him to a more experience master.

 

I think that a huge mistake that council make was letting Anikin live. I think they all knew how dengerous the kid was, they should have been like " yhea... let's give him a test" kill him and them just say "well, i guess he didn't make it."

 

Biggest mestake. Training Anakin to be a Jedi. They should have listened to Mace Windu. The kid was to attached to his mother, and was hitting on Padme the entire time. The counsel was so desperate to train the "One who will bring balance," they forgot all about the jedi code.

 

mistake: darth maul isnt real. no sith.

 

I think their worst mistake was never explaining to Anakin what was going on. I mean come on, from Anakin's view, the Jedi were trying to kill Palpatine. He never knew Palpatine was behind the war, or any of that stuff. Gee, maybe if Obi-Wan had taken 5 minutes and told him that on Mustufar, things would have ended differently...

Would you all like to know what the Council lacked, the one thing Luke and had and they didn't? It was FAITH. They were so sure that once Anakin fell, he was doomed forever, that he could never be turned. They were so set in their attitude that Anakin was gone, that Darth Vader had destroyed him, when really Anakin was there, ready to be saved. The lack of faith was their major flaw.

 

Howard, I disagree.

Everyone and their Grandma was warning Anakin about Palpatine, and trying to explain to him what we really going on. He blew them off all off. Not their fault.

 

Just some thoughts on why these things DO make sense:

1) Palpatine is the most powerful Sith EVER. The Jedi have no idea what they are dealing with. He's that good (bad)
2) Did Anakin ever ask them?
3) Obi-Wan is a powerful Jedi. He can feel that Anakin is gone, and has seen it also with Vader choking his wife. Yoda has already told him that Anakin is lost. He has meditated on the ship-ride and is ready to destroy the Sith, if that is his destiny. Anakin is clearly turned entirely by this point; Palpatine has re-wired his mind.

 

The Jedi are pretty bad at not caring where they get the apprentices. *Cringes before I bring up the EU*

Like in Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter an accountant for the Jedi has a Force sensitive son and they basically take the kid then tell the father he cannot see him anymore and fire him forcing the father to live in the slums of Coruscant.


-The Scummy-

 

Yeah, I got one. Why didn't the Jedi Council send some more Jedi to accompany Amidala back to Naboo if they knew Darth Maul was after the queen? I mean, even two Jedi are going to have a rough time with a Sith.

 

especially one with two/doubladed lightsaber!

 

They never told Nakain Palpatine was behind the war. Remember, he thought he was going to Mutufar to end the war by killing the Seperatists. He had no idea that Palpatine started the whole thing. Obi-Wan says "He was decieved by a lie, we all were." What's the difference betweeen Obi-Wan and Anakin. Well, Obi-Wan got the full story, and Anakin never did.

 

One of the biggest problems with the PT is the foolishness of the Jedi. Honestly, I think it was more jedi's stupidity rather than Palpatine's brillance that cost them the galaxy.

An example: ok maybe the jedi can't sense the dark side in Palpatine but consider that scene in AToC where palp, his blue horned lackey, jar-jar, and some jedi are talking in Palpatine's office. Palpatine and blue-guy (sorry can't remember his name) have this amazingly obvious and staged bit of dialouge about voting the chancellor emergency powers (Palpatine: "Gee, it's too bad Padme isn't here, she would have given me unlimited legal power, eh Jar-jar?" *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*) and then Jar-jar looks "thoughtful" and the scene end. Why didn't the jedi say anything? They were still there. Did they fall asleep? Padme was the leader of the anti-army faction; she'd rather kiss a wookie then give the chancellor emergence powers. Come on, guys! You don't need the Force to see what Palpatine is up to. Clouseau could have figured it out. Heck, I'm surprised Jar-jar fell for it.

 

There was nothing Anakin needed to be told, Howard, he was an eyewitness to every piece of evidence the Jedi gathered. Look:

1. In AOTC, he was hit by Sith lightning used by Count Dooku, leader of the Separatists. He knew from this experience that Dooku was, indeed, a Sith. Thus, he knows 1 of the 2 Sith in the Galaxy is leading the CIS war effort.

2. He knows Palpatine is Chancellor of the Republic. It is well known that the Chancellor is leading the Republic's war effort.

3. Palpatine admits to Anakin that he is the second and final Sith lord in the Galaxy.

4. Therefore, Anakin knows that the Sith as an organization are leading both sides of the war. He knows this all from first-han experience. The only possible conclusion is that the war is staged.

Sorry, but this criticism of the Jedi just doesn't stand.

 

I think the biggest mistake the Jedi Council made was, not reading the part of the script where it says they were all killed by clones! Luckily, yoda always reads the endings first, something about backwards talking, foward reading, the way of the dark side, it is...