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New Republic Capital Ships - still sorting out the mess... (Fleet Junkies- HO!)

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  1. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    This is basically a free-for-all follow-on from this thread...

    My fellow lunatics... the problem is this. There's a total mess in terms of the terminology of the New Republic's major capital ship classes... and since it's just getting worse, it's up to the fanboys to sort it out...

    [Note: what follows is very largely culled from on-line summaries of the WEG/WotC stuff and other threads... feel free to point out any mistakes]

    It should have been easy enough... the "New Classes" introduced in the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy consisted of eight designs on four spaceframes (of which the two larger spaceframes are relevant here - the 1,040m Endurance-class Fleet Carrier / Nebula-class Star Destroyer and the 700m Majestic-class Heavy Cruiser / Defender-class Assault Carrier). These were given basic stats by K-Mac himself (here) and duly given the full works stats for the inmates of the asylum to chew by West End Games in Cracken's Threat Dossier... with a little tinkering from the various versions I've seen, these seem to have come out like so...

    Endurance-class Fleet Carrier
    Length: 1,040 metres
    Crew: 6,795 + 76 gunners = 6,871 total
    Passengers: 1,600 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 15,000 metric tons
    Consumables: 5 months
    Hyperdrive Rating: Class 1
    Weapons:
    12 Turbolaser cannons,
    8 Ion Cannons,
    4 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Starfighters: 72 starfighters = two starwings

    Defender-class Star Destroyer
    Length: 1,040 meters
    Crew: 6,795 + 244 gunners = 7,039 total
    Passengers: 1,600 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 15,000 metric tons
    Consumables: 5 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    40 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries
    40 Heavy Tubolaser Cannons
    20 Ion Cannons
    8 Concussion Missile Tubes
    8 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft: 36 starfighters = one starwing

    Majestic-class Heavy Cruiser
    Length: 700 meters
    Crew: 4,050 + 132 gunners = 4,182 total
    Passengers: 640 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 12,000 metric tons
    Consumables: 5 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    30 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons
    20 Laser Cannons
    20 Ion Cannons
    8 Concussion Missile Tubes
    4 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft:

    Defender-class Assault Carrier
    Length: 700 meters
    Crew: 4,050 + 20 gunners = 4,070 total
    Passengers: 700 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 12,000 metric tons
    Consumables (Duration between resupply): 5 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1 with Class 10 backup
    Weapons:
    20 Laser Cannons
    Support Craft: 36 starfighters

    No, you didn't read that wrong... there was one glaringly odd thing in Cracken's Threat Dossier: the Nebula-class Star Destroyer was referred to as the Defender-class Star Destroyer...

    I'm not quite sure how this happened, or when... for all I know, it was just a typo... but it meant that in Cracken's Threat Dossier there were two different types of ship called Defender-class... a 1,040m Star Destroyer and a 700m Assault Carrier...

    Also, just for fun, someone also threw in the Republic-class Star Destroyer, which so far as I can tell is basically the same Star Destroyer as the Nebula only longer... which isn't quite the same as the Defender - that's just the same Star Destroyer with a new numberplate...

    Republic-class Star Destroyer
    Length: 1,250 meters
    Crew 8,168 + 260 gunners = 1428 total
    Passengers: 3,200 troops.
    Weapons:
    40 heavy turbolaser batteries
    40 heavy turbolaser cannons
    20 ion cannons
    10 tractor beam projectors
    Support Craft: 36 fighters = 1 starwing

    But so far, it was just about making sense, except for the fact that the Defender-class name had been mistakenly applied to the Nebula-class Star Destroyer.

    Then WotC came along with Starships of the Galaxy, and in an effort to make s
     
  2. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Finaly...in all my years of reading this forum, I have been waiting for this thread!
    Thank you Thrawn!
     
  3. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree we got a mess here. Firstly, I believe that the Star Defender is a warship of Mon Calamari design. It was stated as this in Vector Prime. Now, I know that later on it was refered to as a Corellian ship, but that is probably just a tyop or error on the part of the writer.(After all, every now and them there is mistakes in the EU). As for the size of it, I believe it is around twice the size of a MC-90 battlecruiser.

    Not to pose another question, but the star cruiser Mediator is described as a newer, heavier armed version of the famed Mon Cal Cruiser. Now, I personally believe it is just a new version of the MC-90, but the possibility still remains that the Mon Cals produced another newer version to replace the MC-90. After all, over the years they have always upgraded and improved on their star cruisers. Even if the Mediator is a new class, I imagine it is not much bigger than the other typres of Mon Cal cruisers. Afterall, the Mon Cals always seem to keep their warships sized around 1200 meters in length. As for weapon and fighter compliments, I imagine they would be larger than a standard MC-90 cruiser.

    As for the rest of the ships mentioned in the Black fleet crisis, we don't see them mentioned much anymore. It is possible that the Fifth Fleet was the only fleet outfitted with those New Class warships. The old stand me bys like the Star Destroyer and Mon Cal cruiser still seem to be a major part of teh NR/GA fleets.
     
  4. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, I think we can assume they are present, as there many occasions when vessels are simply reffered to as "cruiser" or "carrier".

    As for the Mediator let's give it some hypothetical stas

    Mediator-class Battlecruiser(for now any way)

    Length: 2500 meters
    Crew: 8,050 + 2000 gunners = 10,050 total
    Passengers: 1000 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 24000 metric tons
    Consumables: 12 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    45 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries
    45 Turbolasers Batteries
    40 Ion Cannons
    45 Turbolaser Cannons
    12 Concussion Missile Tubes
    10 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft: one fighter wing?

    Republic-class Cruiser (for now any way)

    Length: 600 meters
    Crew: 3,000 + 100 gunners = 3100 total
    Passengers: 1000 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 8000 metric tons
    Consumables: 4.5 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    15 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries
    15 Ion Cannons
    20 Double Turbolaser Cannons
    4 Concussion Missile Tubes
    4 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft: 2 squadrons

    Just a start anyway...This may take a while
     
  5. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just read K-Mac's site, It seems that the Republic-class is an older ship, post Thrawn and Dark Empire no doubt, but older than the New Class ships. I think the Defender-class should simply be known as the Nebula from here, could help solve confusion now and in the future.
     
  6. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, there are two Republic class ships. The one that you are refering to is the Republic class Star Destroyer. The new one is the Kuat Systems Republic class cruiser. I read an interview with Walter Jon williams, the author of Destiny's way. He said that the Republic class cruiser is a new warship that was pushed into serive after the Vong invaded the galaxy. It is an easily mass produced warship that is about 1 kilometer in length. There main attribute is that they can be produced at a fast rate and in large numbers. They have fairly basic systems and a moderate armament. If I can find the site I got this info off, I will post it.
     
  7. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually, I am reffering to the Cruiser! lol! oh well, what do you think of the stats? (I was right, I had heard that it was a seperate ship before)

    EDIT
    New Stats (based on Nicks info)

    Republic-class Cruiser (for now any way)

    Length: 1000 meters
    Crew: 4,500 + 180 gunners = 4,680 total
    Passengers: 1000 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 8000 metric tons
    Consumables: 7 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    25 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries
    25 Ion Cannons
    20 Double Turbolaser Cannons
    6 Concussion Missile Tubes
    6 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft: 2 squadrons

     
  8. RaptorRage

    RaptorRage Jedi Master star 4

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    WOTC uses a different set of weapon terms and damage values than WEG, but they do seem to have converted all the batteries into individual cannons, but then went ahead and placed that number into a smaller number of batteries.

    I think part of the reason WOTC changed the batteries into cannons was that WEG did not have damage values that reflected the fact that a battery is supposed to be five individual cannons. For example looking at the Imperial Sourcebook it states a Heavy Turbolaser Cannon has a damage of 7D whereas a Heavy Turbolaser Battery has a damage of only 10D.

    Also WEG listed the numbers of weapons in each fire arc for their cannons and batteries the same way, so may have caused confusion with other published sources that also list starship stats. For example the ISD is listed in the Imperial Sourcebook with 60 Turbolaser Batteries (20 front, 20 left, 20 right) which should mean 300 individual cannons, but in the Star Wars Technical Journal Volume 2 and the X-wing Strategy Guide it is listed with 60 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons, and the EGVV attributes only 60 turbolasers to the ISD. Likewise the Super-class in EGVV is described as having 1,000 weapons, when it carries 500 total Turbolaser Batteries (logically 2,500 individual cannons) in the Imperial Sourcebook.

    Basically WEG was too ambiguous so other sources thought their numbers were in reference to individual weapons rather than multi-weapon batteries where specified.

    So those WOTC Defender-class Star Destroyer stats that appear on the surface to be undergunned from the WEG version are I think supposed to completely replace the older WEG stats despite the battery/individual cannon mishap. Likewise the WOTC Defender-class design is probably a replacement of the WEG design rather than a different ship. And to top that off of course it is supposed to be Nebula-class anyway.

    I'll try to compile the WOTC weapons and their WEG counterparts in a later post. Note now though for an example that what WEG called a Heavy Turbolaser Battery WOTC calls a Heavy Turbolaser. Basically we'll have to think of WEG's term "Battery" not as a 5-gun emplacement but rather a more powerful type of Turbolaser than the Cannons.

    Also it was Cracken's Threat Dossier that mentioned the three-ship Defender program, not Starships of the Galaxy.
     
  9. Brett_Bass

    Brett_Bass Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sweet lord, this sounds even worse than the hilarious Super-class star destroyer problem.

    The only real insight that I can give is that the Mediator-class battlecruiser is smaller than an ISD (Hero's Trial). Since it is the only craft from Star Wars that I know of termed a 'battlecruiser'--but the title has stuck (even ISDs get called 'cruisers' in ANH), I'll assume it's intentional. Also, given the textual evidence in which the Mediator-class is sunk in Hero's Trial, I guess we can (for now) assume that she *is* indeed, a battlecruiser. A battlecruiser being a ship designed to posess a very high degree of firepower in addition to a high maximum speed, necessitating a sacrifice of armor. Since the Mediator-class goes down relatively fast, I think that this could be used as evidence of her battlecruiser status.

    As for star defenders, the only ones I know of are the Corellian ones and the Mon Calamarian ones. As I recall, the Mon Cal version were the larges warships that they'd ever produced. Maybe in terms of gross tonnage they could be placed between a star destroyer and a super star destroyer.
     
  10. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    Oh goody.
    I can just feel a migraine coming on.
    From various sources, I've heard that the Star Defenders are some where in 8km range lenght, though why they haven't shown up in battle with the Vong is beyond me???!!!
    And is that a typo, or is now 36 starfighters considered a wing?
     
  11. Brett_Bass

    Brett_Bass Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Different militaries, different unit sizes. In the Imperial Navy, a wing is 72 fighters. In New Republic Fighter Command, it seems to be 36.
    Also, I don't think the star defenders were quite in the SSD size class. My estimate was in the 4-5,000 meter range.
     
  12. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've Always thought the Star Defenders were in the 6000-8000m range myself...
     
  13. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Okay here are the WoTC Weapons:
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    Double Turbolaser Cannons 5d10x2 Damage with Multifire

    HeavyDouble Turbolaser Cannons 4d10x5 Damage with Multifire

    Light Turbo Quad Lasers 4d10x5 Damage with Autofire

    Turbo Quad Lasers 6d10x5 Damage with Autofire

    Turbolaser Cannons 2d10x5 Damage

    Light Turbolaser 4d10x5 Damage

    Medium Turbolaser 5d10x5 Damage

    Turbolaser 7d10x5 Damage

    Heavy Turbolaser 10d10x5 Damage
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    I think that Turbolaser Batteries, perhaps meant "A single turbolsaer with the power of a battery". It seems that Turbolaser and Turbolaser Battery Are synonymous!
     
  14. Brett_Bass

    Brett_Bass Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, and back to star defenders...
    I think we have seen them in combat, just haven't read about their explooits as of yet. As I recall, the brand new Mon Cal one (was that the Viscount?) was patrolling Coruscant space. If I were a betting man, I'd say that she was involved in the Battle of Coruscant--and because we never hear about her again, I assume she didn't make it.
     
  15. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Good Point, we could assume that they may also be defending Corellia, as some were built there. Do you agree with my Turbolaser=Turbolaser Battery theory?
     
  16. RaptorRage

    RaptorRage Jedi Master star 4

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    That could work out especially due to te conversions that WOTC made with the terminology.
     
  17. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So, now it seems we sshould create Hypothetical Star Defender

    Strident/Viscout-class Star Defender
    Length: 8000 meters
    Crew: 30,795 + 1244 gunners = 32,039 total
    Passengers: 5,000 troops
    Cargo Capacity: 60,000 metric tons
    Consumables: 18 months
    Hyperdrive: Class 1
    Weapons:
    150 Heavy Turbolasers
    150 Turbolasers
    200 Heavy Double Tubolaser Cannons
    150 Ion Cannons
    25 Assault Concussion Missile Tubes
    24 Tractor Beam Projectors
    Support Craft: 72 starfighters = two starwings

    what do you think?
     
  18. RaptorRage

    RaptorRage Jedi Master star 4

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    Here's the WOTC set of weapon terms and damage in RPG terms from Starships of the Galaxy, with equivelant WEG weapons in brackets. Some of the damage values vary on different vehicles and vessels, but these are relatively accurate base figures.

    *Blasters*
    Autoblaster 3d10x2 - [Auto Blaster 3D]
    Triple blaster 2d10x2 - [Triple Blaster 3D]
    Light blaster cannon 1d10x2 - [Light Blaster Cannon 2D]
    Blaster cannon 4d10x2 - [Medium Blaster Cannon 4D]
    Heavy blaster cannon 5d10x2 - [Heavy Blaster Cannon 5D , Heavy Blaster Cannon 6D]

    *Lasers*
    Twin laser cannon 2d10x2 - [Twin Laser Cannon 3D]
    Point laser cannon 2d10x2 - [Laser Cannon 2D]
    Light laser cannon 3d10x2 - [Laser Cannon 2D]
    Laser cannon 4d10x2 - [Laser Cannon 5D]
    Heavy laser cannon 5d10x2 - [Laser Cannon 6D , Heavy Laser Cannon 6D]
    Assault laser cannon 7d10x2 - [Laser Cannon 7D]
    Quad laser cannon 6d10x2 - [Quad Laser Cannon 6D]
    Escort quad laser cannon 4d10x2 - [Quad Laser Cannon 4D]
    Longshot quad laser cannon 5d10x2

    *Turbolasers*
    Double turbolaser cannons 5d10x2
    Heavy double turbolaser cannons 4d10x5 - [Double Turbolaser Cannon 4D+2 , Double Turbolaser Battery 2D+2]
    Light turbo quadlasers 4d10x5 - [Quad Turbolaser Cannon 4D , Quad Turbolaser Battery 5D]
    Turbo quadlasers 6d10x5
    Turbolaser cannons 2d10x5 - [Turbolaser Cannon 2D]
    Light turbolaser 4d10x5 - [Turbolaser/Turbolaser Cannon 4D]
    Medium turbolaser 5d10x5
    Turbolaser 7d10x5 - [Heavy Turbolaser/Heavy Turbolaser Cannon 7D , Turbolaser Battery 7D]
    Heavy Turbolaser 10d10x5 - [Heavy Turbolaser Battery 10D , Turbolaser Battery 9D]

    *Missile Weapons*
    Concussion missile 8d10x2 - [Concussion Missile 7D]
    Heavy concussion missile 9d10x2 - [Concussion Missile 9D]
    Assault concussion missile 9d10x5 - [Concussion Missile 9D]
    Energy torpedo 9d10x2
    Proton torpedo 9d10x2 - [Proton Torpedo 9D]
    Heavy proton torpedo 10d10x2 - [Proton Torpedo 9D]

    *Ion Cannons*
    Light ion cannon - [Medium Ion Cannon 4D , Light Ion Cannon 4D]
    Ion cannon
    Heavy ion cannon - [Ion Cannon 4D]
     
  19. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    For the sake of keeping everything smiple(-ish), maybe let's convert all spec into WoTC, as it is the most recent. It should be easy enough.
     
  20. RaptorRage

    RaptorRage Jedi Master star 4

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    Check out these stats from SWRPG Network for comparison, Ton_G. They are still unofficial though.

    Craft: CEC/Mon Calamari MC100 Viscount/Strident-class Star Defender
    Length: 6,250 meters
    Crew: 68,124; gunners: 4,910
    Passengers: 12,000 (troops)
    Cargo Capacity: 350,000 metric tons
    Consumables: 6 years
    Hyperdrive Multiplier: x1
    Hyperdrive Backup: x10
    Weapons:
    500 Turbolaser Batteries Damage: 6D
    500 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries Damage: 9D
    500 Ion Cannon Batteries Damage: 6D (ionization)
    130 Tractor Beam Projectors Damage: 9D
    Carried Craft:
    120 (3 wings, 1 squadron) T-65A3 X-wings
    72 (2 wings) A-wings
    72 (2 wings) E-wings
    36 (1 wing) B-wings
    12 (1 squadron) K-wings
    14 (1 squadron, 1 element) T-65XJ X-wings
    12 Lambda-class shuttles
    10 Troop transports
     
  21. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Aha! I've seen those before...Thank you RaptorRage, I think the could use some tweaking though, those stats show the Star Defender as powerful as the Sovereign class star destroyer!
     
  22. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Okay... right... thanks for the thoughts, everyone... so the whole Defender kubar (sic!) appeared in Cracken's Threat Dossier).

    Okay.

    Deep breath...

    But the Nebula-class is basically the sports coupé version of the Republic-class? I can live with that... maybe... and just for thoughts, could the Republic-class cruiser be the NR's equivalent of the Bulk Cruiser, a cheap 'economy' cruiser based on a simplified version of the Republic-class Star Destroyer spaceframe in the same way that the Bulk Cruiser was based on the dreadnaught?

    Taking this further, here's an entirely hypothetical suggestion as to how it might all fit together... could it be that the NR produced one single basic Star Destroyer spaceframe for all its various types, comparable to the way that the Empire re-used the ImpStar for the ImpStar Deuce, the Dominator-class Interdictor, and the smaller and later ImpStars seen in Dark Empire, or (more tenuously) the variations-on-a-theme of a lot of Royal Navy cruiser design in WWII...?

    If we can persuade WotC to bite on this, the start would be Walex Blissex' 1,250m Republic-class Star Destroyer design...

    This would be 'shortened' to produce a 1,040m hull with a 20% smaller crew through increased automation... thus saving a lot of space... sacrificing half its troops (one brigade? One regiment?), and perhaps three starfighter squadrons at the same time would save even more space.

    Now this design (according to the McEwok hypothesis!) could have originally been projected by some theorist as forming a flexible combat unit with the Defender-class carrier and Republic Systems Defender, as per WEG - two ships for the same price as one Republic-class Star Destroyer... the initial designation of this ship would thus be the Defender-class Star Destroyer...

    But along the way, the New Classes concept of shared spaceframes took over and the initial Defender-class design was adapted to produce the Nebula-class and Endurance-class designs, with differing balances of fighters and guns... and at the same time, the Defender Assault Carrier hull was reworked for the Majestic-class cruiser... but due to the change, there would be some duplication of terminology, and the Nebula - which would, after all, be the Star Destroyer design that emerged from the Defender project - would occasionally be referred to as a Defender-class Star Destroyer...

    Some time later (maybe!) a new Defender-II design with a longer endurance and more fighters would end up being produced, designed to be a flexible single-ship platform capable of operating independantly rather than as part of a task force... a tacit return to the thinking behind the old Imperial Star Destroyer... this is the WotC "Defender"...

    And then, as a war emergency ship, the New Republic would turn back to the original, less tech-intensive and complex Republic-class design, producing a fast, flexible and cheap combat cruiser that couldn't stand toe-to-toe against its cousins, but was still more than good enough as an escort, flak ship, or whatever... since it's apparently the 'shortest' version, is it possible that it has a 'cut-off' bow like the Demolisher in the Droids cartoon, with its fighters flying from a forward bay (see here)?

    So the variants would be:
    Republic-class Star Destroyer (BFC/WEG)
    Defender Project prototype (WEG)
    Nebula-class Star Destroyer (BFC), sometimes known as Defender-class Star Destroyer (WEG)
    Endurance-class Fleet Carrier (BFC/WEG)
    Defender-class Star Destroyer Mk. II (WotC)
    Republic-class Cruiser (WJW)

    Okay? Any thoughts? Any stats?

    As to turbolasers... a 'turbolaser' is now something different from a 'turbolaser canon'? Thanks for the comparison, RaptorRage! I think we need to come up with some sort of 'truth and reconciliation
     
  23. RaptorRage

    RaptorRage Jedi Master star 4

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    WOTC describes a Turbolaser Cannon to be a Laser Cannon that has been augmented with only some of the features of a full Turbolaser. Whereas a full Turbolaser uses galven coils along the barrel to greatly extend the range over a standard Laser Cannon, and also is much more powerful at the cost of space for dedicated turbines and capacitors. The Heavy Turbolaser likewise is what the largest capital ships carry.

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    Also reposting this link here so we can bask in the "glory" of the WEG New Class Ships :\

    New Class Ships

    I only hope some or all of these were addressed in the New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels.
     
  24. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not to throw out yet another ship that was mentioned once and never heard from again, but what about the Corona classs frigate. It looks vaguely like a bulky Nebulon B frigate. I believe that they were designed before the Black Fleet crisis. While I do not know the link, pictures of them are fairly easy to come by. Just do a Google search with key word Corona class frigate. Anyway, I just wondered what you all thought of these.
     
  25. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ok Thawn, so based on you Theory we have:

    Republic-class Star Destroyer, Which is 1,250m, perhaps this is the class of which the Mon Mothma and Elegos A'kla belong to? The ship May be an Interdictor.
    So, when the Interdictor tech was removed, it was smaller resulting in:
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    Nebula(Defender Prototype)
    This ship is the "pocket" Star Destroyer
    which we call the Nebula, essential a more manuverable(sp?) Republic, perhaps a tad fewer weapons? So the Defender- Prototype has become usefull on it's own.
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    Endurance-class
    Based upon the spaceframe of the Nebula
    this carrier is probably similar to the Nebula is shape, but maybe has the front cut off for a landing bay, etc.
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    Defender II-class
    Okay, this may be the result of the Nebula (defender Prototype) perhaps extra weapons, may a larger spaceframe, say +100m?
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    Republic-class cruiser
    A smaller, maybe microsized Nebula, I picture it as a shortened Nebula (-100m) with the bottom cut off!
     
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