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CT Obi-wan distracting Stormtroopers; mind trick or telekinesis?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Doompup, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. Doompup

    Doompup Jedi Knight star 1

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    It’s a very minor thing that doesn’t really matter, but I found myself wondering if Obi-wan used telekinesis to hit something or mind trick to distract the Stormtroopers by the power coupling for the tractor beam. I used to be sure it was telekinesis, but lately I’ve been thinking about it, and have been coming around to mind trick. After all, he couldn’t know what was in the hallway to knock over. Although I guess he could just strike the wall. Thoughts?
     
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  2. BlackRanger

    BlackRanger Jedi Knight star 3

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    I always thought he mind-tricked them into thinking some sort of disturbance was happening off in the corridor that they ought to go check out.
     
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  3. Togruta

    Togruta TPM 20th Anniversary Banner Finalist star 4 VIP - Game Winner

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    It's hard to say. IIRC, it makes this "heavy air" type of sound, which makes it seem like the stormtrooper reacted to something. I always thought it was just some sublte, airy thing Obi-Wan made with the Force.
     
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  4. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 7

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    The way Alec Guinness moved his fingers makes me think of a snapping gesture. It looks to me like he was telekinetically tapping on a wall to make a sound.
     
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  5. Binary_Sunset

    Binary_Sunset Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ever since I first saw the movie in June 1977, I've always assumed that it was a mind trick. :)
     
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  6. themoth

    themoth Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Same.
     
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  7. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    i always thought it was in their mind but we heard it.
     
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  8. Anakin Generation

    Anakin Generation Jedi Youngling

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    Maybe he mind-tricked you too.
     
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  9. DarthZ07

    DarthZ07 Jedi Master star 2

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    He threw a penny.
     
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  10. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    There is no physical sound that cannot be accounted for. That claves nook sound that occurs as Obi-Wan's fingers move is the Stormtrooper's headset radios. That sound can be heard several times in preceding and following frames when a Stormtrooper finishes a sentence.
     
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  11. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Ben moves around the tractor beam, watching the stormtroopers
    as they turn their backs to him. Ben gestures with his hand
    toward them, as the troops think they hear something in the
    other hallway. With the help of the Force, Ben deftly slips
    past the troopers and into the main hallway.

    It's a bit hard to hear in the film, but there's a whump noise that sounds like it's coming from down the hallway slightly before the nook sound that comes from one of the stormtrooper's headsets.

    So either Ben is actually doing something telekinetically, or he's using the Force to make them think they hear something and it's simply made audible for the benefit of the audience. The description in the script makes me lean towards the latter explanation.
     
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  12. Bob Effette

    Bob Effette Jedi Master star 4

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    I like to think that those two stormtroopers continue their idle chit-chat after Obi-Wan leaves

    "So, are you taking a holiday this year?"
    "On my salary? Are you kidding?"
     
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  13. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    The last episode of The Mandalorian was a love letter.
     
  14. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 7

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    he threw a piece of Alderaan
     
  15. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Detective Potato star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, hot damn, I've wondered the same thing myself for quite a while. I had always leaned towards him just using the Force to tap a wall or something, but the Force being used for telekinesis wasn't a thing in 1977, bar choking. If I were asked now, chances are I'd say it's more a mind****
     
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  16. Bob Effette

    Bob Effette Jedi Master star 4

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    Ooooh, harsh! lol
     
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  17. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 5

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    The main thing I remember from that scene is that you hear that low rumble on the soundtrack, just like you heard it when Vader choked Motti. I don't recall hearing any other sound effect, so I figure it was a mind trick.
     
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  18. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 7

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    Too soon, man, too soon. :(
     
  19. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought we heard a noise. It's sort of indistict, but loud enough to warrant the Stormtroopers looking.

    Anyone notice that Rey climbs a tractor beam tower in The Rise of Skywalker while in the Death Star 2?
     
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  20. MotivateR5D4

    MotivateR5D4 Jedi Master star 4

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    I always thought he manipulated real things to make that noise which then obviously distracted the Stormtroopers and allowed him to get away. In all my years watching SW I don't think I ever thought it was some mind trick, as if to make the Stormtroopers think something was happening that wasn't. It was just an old wizard manipulating the space time continuum.
     
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  21. Django Fett

    Django Fett Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What is the noise we hear? It's changed over the editions but it's clearly audible to the audience. As the audience can hear it too I always believed Obi-Wan had moved an object off screen to make the noise and cause the Stormtroopers look the other way...but I don't know. for certain..
     
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  22. Doompup

    Doompup Jedi Knight star 1

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    I dug out my copy of the novelization just to see what it had to say. And it said.....neither? In the novelization, he just sneaks from one shadow to the next, avoiding detection. So no help there 8-}
    It does imply (but not outright state) that he used the Force to move more silently and/or hide himself in the shadows better. So I guess that’s closer to the realm of mind trick.
     
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  23. cratylus

    cratylus Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Obi-Wan Kenobi is the #1 Force user at sneaking around in the entire saga.
     
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  24. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, the stormtroopers clearly hear something, and then the dialogue (as confirmed with subtitles) was "what was that?" And then the other says "nothing-outgassing, don't worry about it."

    So I'm figuring outgassing means Obi Wan used the force to cause some exhaust conduit to burst or pressure valve in the elevator door mechanism to blow open and let out a burst of air-which distracted them in the other direction.
     
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