Mini Series Official "Obi-Wan Kenobi" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

That's the least surprising news I've heard all year.

 

Well some did wonder whether they would actually go out and shoot on location.

 

One of the problems with the Kenobi show is his protection of Luke seems fairly pointless now. It's an absurd duty, protecting someone who ends up doing essentially nothing.

 

Wait, what? I think you meant to say “protecting someone who destroys the Death Star, becomes one of the leading figures in the galaxy against the Empire, is responsible for the death of the Emperor, and helps save the people who go on to defeat the Emperor’s successors.

 

Yeah, claiming that Luke "ends up doing essentially nothing" is just absurd. There is absolutely nothing that supports this idea. Luke is essential in toppling the Empire, and also in allowing the reistance to stay alive to best the First Order and the reincarnation of the Emperor later on. That makes him about as close to the most important character as you can get.

 

Yeah. It’s like saying Abraham Lincoln “ends up doing essentially nothing” because he’s assassinated before completing his second term.

 

Yeah, such a "fail".

Another important aspect is that it's Obi-Wan doing the protecting. Hence the dynamic in ESB/ROTJ and possible influence on Luke's self-imposed exile in the ST - and Rey's approach to Jedi-ing going forward.

All this stuff may be reflected in the Obi-Show and good storytelling, effectively foreshadowing the subsequent 6 films.

 

Im looking forward to this show big time

 

I am curious now how it's NOT like the Mandalorian.

That it isn't a Lone Hero roaming the desert, righting wrongs.
Ahwoo ahwoo...

 

Not exactly.

Abraham Lincoln played a significant role in preventing the South from winning the Civil War and helping to free the slaves. And since the end of the Civil War, there hasnt been another civil war in american history (so far).

But lets play a what if scenario. What if Reconstruction failed miserably, the Southern states not long after Lincolns death returned to a state of Civil War. Enslaving again ex-slaves living in the south. Perhaps the USA never becoming united again, but always divided into two countries.

Lincolns legacy would not be looked on as good as it does in our world, if what I described above happened.

Similar to what happened with Luke.

Before the ST he had a great legacy. He still has achieved great things in the context of the ST happening, however his legacy has been severely damaged. The Republic he fought to become a reality blown up in 30 years, a solar system destroyed. The Jedi Academy instead of leaving a lasting/positive legacy, instead ends in death and a very dark legacy in the form of Kylo Ren. Then waiting to die for 6 years while the Emperor/Snoke/Kylo Ren were active.

 

You proved my point. Reconstruction did fail, in a lot of ways, given that many of the old political forces came back to power in the south, the Jim Crow regimes were installed across the south, and we essentially had a country where half was a free republic, and the other was a white autocracy. Up until the late 1960s.

But that fact doesn’t erase Lincoln’s legacy of presiding over the emancipation of slaves in America.

 

But in my what if scenario Reconstruction fails, more so then in our world. And his dream of a united union fail again not long after he dies.

I agree that Luke still has acomplishments that should be remembered, but it’s still true his legacy has been tarnished in the wake of the ST.

If slavery has been brought back in southern states and we had another civil war in the late 19th century, that would have tarnished Lincolns legacy. Now that doesn’t mean it would ruin it completely. Lincoln would still be remembered for what he did in America’s 1st civil war.

 

Makes me wonder how this series will help repair the damage the ST caused?
Perhaps Obi-Wan had far more to do in addition to protecting Luke?
Crimson Dawn might be a thing On Tattoine.

 

So real deserts (like ANH and TPM) are out then?

The best thing it can do is be itself in it's own timeline which means it has nought to do with anything but actual Lucas Star Wars.

 

Agreed. It's so far removed from the ST that it's not an issue.

 

Not quite. With the Volume screens, they’ll be filming images of real deserts in camera. So still real deserts! Your desire for digital deserts will remain unfulfilled.

 

Seems to be much larger scale

 

No, she is referring to the fact she is responsible for directing the whole series rather than the two episodes she did for the Mandalorian.

 

Not quite sure what you mean by digital deserts in this context. Even with "filming" of actual deserts they will in effect be digital because they will be digitally captured and very likely reshaped, enhanced and have multiple layers of effects added.

What I'm talking about is to have a combination of actual desert shooting with actors plus all the various techniques. Obviously actual practical effects are out because those are not done anymore. That hasn't stopped them from trying to sell the bogus definition of practical effects they've tried to pass off for years now. Going to locations and building sets is not an example of practical effects. That's just basic movie-making.

 

CGI has progressed to the point where when done well its harder to tell what is CGI and what isn't.